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by **2cool4me4** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 01:23

That may be going a bit too far when it comes to copying. ;)

by **luios** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 09:57

help i needs help

by **luios** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:08

i needs a old version

(ich barauche ne alte version)

List of my mods · by **PilzAdam** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:10

luios wrote:i needs a old version

(ich barauche ne alte version)

1st: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=38874#p38874
2nd: Why?

by **luios** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:18

I need install help

List of my mods · by **PilzAdam** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:32

luios wrote:I need install help

http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Installing_mods

by **Josh** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 03:12

Hey Jeija i have a question what does you hacker you do? Is it for hacking mesecons or something?

by **VanessaE** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 08:25

It's a joke started by celeron55 - if a block has a name like that, it means you're not supposed to actually use it for anything, because some other block either is the correct one to use instead (such as an "off" version of some "on" block), or because it has no useful purpose (such as air, in the original joke).

by **irksomeduck** » Sat Sep 01, 2012 15:09

How do you craft light grey lightstone? The mesecons website has nothing on this.

by **VanessaE** » Sat Sep 01, 2012 20:40

For the light grey lightstone (just called "grey"), use three cobblestone, one regular torch, and one mesecon wire:

Also, other lightstones' recipes, for reference until they're added to the website:

Dark grey: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/lightstone-darkgrey.png
(Three gravel + torch + wire)
Green: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/lightstone-green.png
(Three cactus + torch + wire)
Blue: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/lightstone-blue.png
(Three fiber insulation + torch + wire)

by **Josh** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 03:01

It would be cool if mesecons could be in the default game.

by **webdesigner97** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 19:32

I'm having trouble with the microcontroller on Minetest.ru server. When I right-click microcontroller there's only this:

Can you help me?

by **Ancien** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 08:58

webdesigner97 wrote:I'm having trouble with the microcontroller on Minetest.ru server. When I right-click microcontroller there's only this:

Can you help me?

I have the same probleme with the lastest version of mesecons on minetest 0.4.1

by **Jordach** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 09:38

Ancien, mesecons requires Minetest 0.4.2-rc-1.

by **sfan5** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:10

This is the latest Version:
http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.2-rc1-cc47ff7-win32.7z

by **webdesigner97** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 15:50

Jordach wrote:Ancien, mesecons requires Minetest 0.4.2-rc-1.

Oh, ok..... :(
Thx

by **Phitherek_** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 21:30

There is a problem with long mesecon wires... If the wire is really long, disonnecting it sometimes kind of "disconnects" both parts (meaning that wire "hangs" at some place in the 0 state, even if mesecon next to it is 1) and it causes major problems when e. g. connecting distant receptors to one "effector panel".

EDIT: There is also a problem sometimes with something growing right in the middle of the wire.

by **Temperest** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 22:01

That's the wire going out of chunk loading distance. You can fix this by either increasing the limit or having more players join to keep certain chunks active.

Or alternatively, make it smaller. Not really a feasible solution for mesecon telegraph lines, but possible if you're building a machine.

by **2cool4me4** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 00:25

Couldn't find this anywhere, how do you increase the chunk limit, Temperest. I'm making an ALU and need all dem mesecons to stay active! (darn wraparound busses)

by **Temperest** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 01:35

Probably something to do with the active_block_range, active_object_send_range_blocks, or viewing_range_nodes_min properties. I'm not sure which.

by **2cool4me4** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 02:14

Well, active_block_range causes endless sky or just a few regions loading, but active_object_send_range_blocks works just right. Looks like setting this REALLY high could help me make my computer.

by **cornernote** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 17:05

Phitherek_ wrote:There is a problem with long mesecon wires... If the wire is really long, disonnecting it sometimes kind of "disconnects" both parts (meaning that wire "hangs" at some place in the 0 state, even if mesecon next to it is 1) and it causes major problems when e. g. connecting distant receptors to one "effector panel".

EDIT: There is also a problem sometimes with something growing right in the middle of the wire.

I get the same thing, sometimes the wire stays on although there is nothing powering it. Causes chaos trying to debug machines.

by **2cool4me4** » Fri Sep 07, 2012 01:20

Set active_block_send_range to something high, it worked for me at least.

by **Fenris** » Sat Sep 08, 2012 05:45

bug or...?
Trying the following in one of my machines

Pressing the switch on D turns on B and C.
When the switch goes off, C on the chip turns off, but the wire seems to stay on. Can see the letter C is not lit up, but the wire and light remain powered. If i use a long wire, the problem remains until I break the wire (at any location).
Pressing the reset switch on A also fails to turn off the wire and light, as the output C isn't technically on according to the chip.
anyone got any ideas or work arounds?

by **Jeija** » Sat Sep 08, 2012 06:03

Weird bug, confirmed, working on a fix.
(may take some time, please be patient)

by **Jeija** » Sat Sep 08, 2012 13:15

Finally found the bug! You should win a prize for finding weird bugs!

I hope the fix doesn't cause new bugs, I tested it with all the mesecon machine competition circuits.

Sorry for being so curious... What are you building Fenris? Will you publish it?

by **Fenris** » Sat Sep 08, 2012 16:15

Thanks for the fast reply and fix. If they gave prizes for finding weird bugs trust me I'd have a full trophy case. Would have tried to track it down in the code too but I dont really know lua 'yet' (I'm mostly a perl and python coder).
That was for my own tic tac toe machine, was looking at the screenshots in the competition thread and thought be fun to try and build one. New to minetest and mesecons so figured it would be good practice. Almost done the machine but the bug kinda stumped me, the wire with the bug was part of the toggle for who's turn it is.
As for publishing it, I hadn't thought about it really since there's already a tic tac toe machine from the competition, this is a world I'm building with my young (8 year old) daughter and I plan to include a number of different game machines so I'm sure I'll create something more original soon enough for publishing :)
On a side note, I've been looking for a while for a way of teaching my daughter the basics of programming and logic flow, keeping the young interested in learning at that age is.....tricky, but it seems I found it with this mod so THANK YOU!!!!
A player detecting hallway that seals itself off and gives you 15 seconds to enter a combination lock before the floor opens up to a lava pit seems to have done the trick in getting her interested in how it all works.

by **webdesigner97** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 15:17

Have I already mentioned that this mod is awesome! If not:
IT'S AWESOME :D :D

by **irksomeduck** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 17:57

This caused enough lag to crash my pc :( Was this a bug or is it just the size of the mod?

by **Jeija** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 18:26

When did it crash, on startup? Shouldn't actually be the mod, do you have debug output? Try disabling new style wires in mesecons/wires.lua

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