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PilzAdam wrote:

jojoa1997 wrote:Would it be OK with you PilzAdam is I just made a pull request with all the Redstone stuff I made?

Ehm, it already has redstone. And I have written it completly from scratch, so your version is most likely not compatible.

Oh OK. I took a break from MiniTest and must have missed it on the first post.

you should use the jeija mesecons mod and only put the minecraft texture :)

eduardo_cam199 wrote:you should use the jeija mesecons mod and only put the minecraft texture :)

No. MC's redstone works different. My simple implementation is not so bloated as mesecons.

Yeah... Mesecons is nice but kinda overpowered. I like mc redstone, even though it doesn't do as much. I mean, if you can build a computer with a lua controller, why not do it minecraft style and use up 20 biomes making a huge awesome one which you can actually see in action.

PilzAdam wrote:

eduardo_cam199 wrote:you should use the jeija mesecons mod and only put the minecraft texture :)

No. MC's redstone works different. My simple implementation is not so bloated as mesecons.

I like this. Gives me a light alternative to Minecraft. Does this still work on 0.4.4?

DaN wrote:I like this. Gives me a light alternative to Minecraft. Does this still work on 0.4.4?

Try it, but I guess it doesnt work.

PilzAdam wrote:

DaN wrote:I like this. Gives me a light alternative to Minecraft. Does this still work on 0.4.4?

Try it, but I guess it doesnt work.

OK, I tried both versions. The new one doesn't work. Oh well.
At least the old one works quite a bit.

haja

@PilzAdam:
I am a great fan of your MiniTest game, but i think you should add/change some things if you want to be really close to MC:
1) Double Space to fly (minetest.conf)
2) Give fly-Privilege for default (builtin\privileges.lua)
3) Limit Framerate to 30 or somewhat, all over is CPU-waste (minetest.conf)
Thank you, H6nry

EDIT: 4) The creative mode inventory is no 2x2 table.

H6nry wrote:@PilzAdam:
I am a great fan of your MiniTest game, but i think you should add/change some things if you want to be really close to MC:
1) Double Space to fly (minetest.conf)
2) Give fly-Privilege for default (builtin\privileges.lua)
3) Limit Framerate to 30 or somewhat, all over is CPU-waste (minetest.conf)
Thank you, H6nry

EDIT: 4) The creative mode inventory is no 2x2 table.

Nice you like this game.
4) Yes, thats intentional.
3) Why? looks ugly IMO. You can change that for yourself if you want.
2) Does MC really have flying in survival mode?
1) This doublespace to fly thing in Minetest is annyoing, it doesnt really work as expected (i.e. the release of the key is the event, not the pressing down).

PilzAdam wrote:

H6nry wrote:@PilzAdam:
I am a great fan of your MiniTest game, but i think you should add/change some things if you want to be really close to MC:
1) Double Space to fly (minetest.conf)
2) Give fly-Privilege for default (builtin\privileges.lua)
3) Limit Framerate to 30 or somewhat, all over is CPU-waste (minetest.conf)
Thank you, H6nry

EDIT: 4) The creative mode inventory is no 2x2 table.

Nice you like this game.
4) Yes, thats intentional.
3) Why? looks ugly IMO. You can change that for yourself if you want.
2) Does MC really have flying in survival mode?
1) This doublespace to fly thing in Minetest is annyoing, it doesnt really work as expected (i.e. the release of the key is the event, not the pressing down).

There is no flying in survival but you get it automatically in creative. Also the double tap is nice cause you can easily go on and off you just have to get used to it.

I played for like two seconds but I'd like to point out a few things:

* Suffocate seems to be missing (at least with sand, I haven't tried with gravel). There already is a mod for that, but I don't know if it still works with recent versions of Minetest.
* Drowning is not drawing the bubbles bar in the HUD.
* It would be cool if drowning had a drowning sound (I think MC has that).
* It would be nice to see particles when splashing in water.
* Charcoal is a feature that's not mentioned in the first post.
* In MC you can't have stuff in the crafting area when closing the inventory, it gets dropped to the ground. I don't know if that can be changed without messing with the Minetest engine.
* Shift-clicking to get the whole stack of possible crafts or to move stacks to-from inventory would be amazing (even for Minetest).
* Double doors aren't working (they both face the same side). Also, when you place a door, it should be on the outermost part of the cube, not in the innermost. (I tried with wood in both cases, not with steel since I haven't found any yet).
* It would be neat if doors had an opening / closing sound.
* Torches shouldn't remain attached while underwater.
* Hunger mod could be included.
* Fishing and throwing maybe? I don't know if they are close enough to the MC stuff.
* In MC chests can't be opened if they have a block on it (but they also have an opening animation that would seem odd if they had a block on top of it, so it's probably a more esthetics limitation).


I REALLY like what you did here. With the obvious exception of mobs and weather, it does feel a lot like proper MC (at least older versions, which were what I tried to compare them to Minetest). I particularly like the water floating / swimming physics and they are closer to what I'd personally like in Minetest (I feel that Minetest's water is like moving in molasses).

Thanks for all your hard work.

EDIT: also, the boat mod! :D
EDIT2: fence gates and glass panes are missing (xpanes and xfences might work there).

leo_rockway wrote:* It would be cool if drowning had a drowning sound (I think MC has that).

MC just plays the normal damage sound every second.

leo_rockway wrote:* In MC you can't have stuff in the crafting area when closing the inventory, it gets dropped to the ground. I don't know if that can be changed without messing with the Minetest engine.

I doubt it's possible without C++ changes, yes.

leo_rockway wrote:* Torches shouldn't remain attached while underwater.

Could be done with an ABM maybe, albeit inaccurately.

Calinou wrote:MC just plays the normal damage sound every second.

Minetest+ too :P

leo_rockway wrote:* Drowning is not drawing the bubbles bar in the HUD.
* Hunger mod could be included.

Use my Better HUD mod

leo_rockway wrote:* It would be neat if doors had an opening / closing sound.

Use my Doors mod

leo_rockway wrote:* Fishing and throwing maybe? I don't know if they are close enough to the MC stuff.

Use Mossmanikin's Fishing mod

BlockMen wrote:

leo_rockway wrote:* Drowning is not drawing the bubbles bar in the HUD.
* Hunger mod could be included.

Use my Better HUD mod

I have and it's great! That's why I mentioned that here :)

BlockMen wrote:

leo_rockway wrote:* It would be neat if doors had an opening / closing sound.

Use my Doors mod

I hadn't seen that. It looks interesting. It does add something that MC doesn't have, though (glass doors, I don't think that MC has that) but at the same time it adds hatches which I forgot to mention in my previous post and MC has.

BlockMen wrote:

leo_rockway wrote:* Fishing and throwing maybe? I don't know if they are close enough to the MC stuff.

Use Mossmanikin's Fishing mod

I had seen it, but I haven't tried it. Does it feel MC-like? (well, I'll try it tonight anyway).

The thing with using other mods, though, is that PilzAdam mentioned this game is probably not compatible with them. I'll have to try them and check.

Another thing that would be great is running privileges enabled by default (maybe with double tapping the forward key, like in MC). I know that there was a fork (blockplanet, I believe it was called) which also had FOV as in MC (which I really like), but that requires messing with the C++ code as far as I know. (It would be neat if Minetest had FOV anyway :) )

leo_rockway wrote:

BlockMen wrote:

leo_rockway wrote:* Drowning is not drawing the bubbles bar in the HUD.
* Hunger mod could be included.

Use my Better HUD mod

I have and it's great! That's why I mentioned that here :)

I guess PilzAdam thinks its too "hacky" to get added to his game. And nice you like it.

leo_rockway wrote:* It would be neat if doors had an opening / closing sound.

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I hadn't seen that. It looks interesting. It does add something that MC doesn't have, though (glass doors, I don't think that MC has that) but at the same time it adds hatches which I forgot to mention in my previous post and MC has.

IMO a glass door is nice and MC should add (instead me remove) :P

leo_rockway wrote:* Fishing and throwing maybe? I don't know if they are close enough to the MC stuff.

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I had seen it, but I haven't tried it. Does it feel MC-like? (well, I'll try it tonight anyway).

The thing with using other mods, though, is that PilzAdam mentioned this game is probably not compatible with them. I'll have to try them and check.

Another thing that would be great is running privileges enabled by default (maybe with double tapping the forward key, like in MC). I know that there was a fork (blockplanet, I believe it was called) which also had FOV as in MC (which I really like), but that requires messing with the C++ code as far as I know. (It would be neat if Minetest had FOV anyway :) )

It won't be as in MC (i guess), but better than no fishing.

And lets see what Minetest will become in future ;)

BlockMen wrote:It won't be as in MC (i guess), but better than no fishing.

Yes, it's inspired by MC, but I'm not trying to make it like in MC.

WHY YOU DONT PUT LAPIS AND ESMERALD IN THE GAME?

eduardo_cam199 wrote:WHY YOU DONT PUT LAPIS AND ESMERALD IN THE GAME?

This game intends to copy the Minecraft alpha / early beta, basically the point before hunger was added.

leo_rockway wrote:* Drowning is not drawing the bubbles bar in the HUD.

Fixed.

The workbenches are shared: I've placed two workbenches, and when I drop items in one, they carry over into the other (sort of like linked bags of holding). In addition, when items are in the crafting grid, I cannot craft in the 2x2 on my person.

EDIT: Unless of course, this is intentional, and the (workbench) is supposed to serve as a temporary expansion. This however does lead to issues; the upper-right 2x2 that makes up the 3x3 is the on-person space, and if I've put something into a workbench somewhere in one of the other slots, it doesn't show up in the on-person 2x2 grid, but it still counts as being on the grid, so I can't craft until I've removed the object from the 'hidden' slot.

Does anyone know wether the MOB Framework is compatible wih this game?

megavex wrote:Does anyone know wether the MOB Framework is compatible wih this game?

Try it. Shouldn't be too complicated to donwload 1 game and 1 mod.

Please added death drop mod

Super Awesome game i just love(i cant play mine craft cause my computer is old)
i really suggest that you can add is Better HUD and please tell me at which depth what material is found if its mentioned in this topic before i have not read it because i did not have enough time.
Thanks(in advance)
And i found this:

shaheerziya wrote:Super Awesome game i just love(i cant play mine craft cause my computer is old)
i really suggest that you can add is Better HUD and please tell me at which depth what material is found if its mentioned in this topic before i have not read it because i did not have enough time.
Thanks(in advance)
And i found this:
http://i43.tinypic.com/2ika1qp.png

actualy the crafting mod would be more suitable but the better hud mod woul be cool

And can more redstone stuff be added please. RedStone:[spoiler] Stuff that can be added: Pistons, Dispensers, Brake rails and water and wind mills.[/spoiler]

shaheerziya wrote:And can more redstone stuff be added please. RedStone: Stuff that can be added: Pistons, Dispensers, Brake rails and water and wind mills.

Try looking at the Mesecons mod and possibly Technic. They between them can probably do everything you are looking for.

ad these things

[spoiler=Items (Wait for 1.8 mc to come out to publish em)]1. Make bedrock lower like say 100 it is normal for mc
2. If you can make droped items go thru half slabs
3. Make netherack never stop burning
4. Make a hopper
5. Make a repeater
6. Make a redstone brick
7. Make emeralds
8. Diamonds need to be more comment like mc
9. Add XP :D
10. Add mobs that die w/ sword :D
11. Add hunger
12. Make a bow
13. Make signs w/ text on em not hovering over em (and ik it is possible i fixed it but maby you should to)
14. Make slime balls and bricks(they are really bouncy and the 1.8 snapshot has em so do it after 1.8 comes out)
15. Slow down fire spread
16. Add anaconda wood
17. Add oak
18. Add pine and snowy biom
19. Add a cactus mapgen(i never find cactus)
20. Make bonemeal
21. Add dropper and Other(i forgot)
22. Make TNT mod activate to redstone
23. Make effects(if can in API)
24. Add Granite,Diorite,Andasite,And all of them in polished
( using crafting like
x=the things o= nothing
x x
xx
)
25. Make armor
26. Add other things (just go play mc i cant im going of memory and vids cuz my java is broke that is why i want this 1 to be like mc :( )
27. Redstone to add Pistons, Dispensers,Rails
28. Drowning
29. LAPIS!!!!
30. Enchanting Table (1.8 snapshot uses lapis wach this vid to see how it works also not gold they made it to lapis {looked at alot of snapshots of it})
31. End
32. Ender dragon and red dragon (both are in end)
33. Better nether
34. Make beds go fast thru the night
35. Dif deserts
36. CMD Block
37. Game logic like flashing redstone (meaning setup like this)
X=Node O=Redstone Torch T=Redstone
O
XTTTTTO
37. Using right click to eat
38. A cmd to see yourself (f5 is in game engin so ik it is not possible for f5)
39. Make doors stack and craft 3 on yeild
40. Make herobrine (very rarely seen but hay put a myth in a clone lol)
41. Make enderperles and eye of ender (make endermen for mobs)
42. Add carpet
43. Watch utube vids of mc for other ideas[/spoiler]

wtfsamcrap wrote:1. Make bedrock lower like say 100 it is normal for mc
2. If you can make droped items go thru half slabs
3. Make netherack never stop burning
4. Make a hopper
5. Make a repeater
6. Make a redstone brick
7. Make emeralds
8. Diamonds need to be more comment like mc
9. Add XP :D
10. Add mobs that die w/ sword :D
11. Add hunger
12. Make a bow
13. Make signs w/ text on em not hovering over em (and ik it is possible i fixed it but maby you should to)
14. Make slime balls and bricks(they are really bouncy and the 1.8 snapshot has em so do it after 1.8 comes out)
15. Slow down fire spread
16. Add anaconda wood
17. Add oak
18. Add pine and snowy biom
19. Add a cactus mapgen(i never find cactus)
20. Make bonemeal
21. Add dropper and Other(i forgot)
22. Make TNT mod activate to redstone
23. Make effects(if can in API)
24. Add Granite,Diorite,Andasite,And all of them in polished
( using crafting like
x=the things o= nothing
x x
xx
)
25. Make armor
26. Add other things (just go play mc i cant im going of memory and vids cuz my java is broke that is why i want this 1 to be like mc :( )
27. Redstone to add Pistons, Dispensers,Rails

1) This games aims to be like Minecraft alpha / early beta.
2) I dont work on this anymore.