IceAgeComing wrote:You were asking people if they want BJ!!!! And you did that infront of CHILDREN.
It took me quite a while to figure out what that might mean. It must have been something sexually offensive (due to the mentionning of children), but I wouldn't have guessed the meaning without that hint. Not everyone is a native speaker...or a speaker of that sub-dialect. I seriously doubt that small children would understand.
NaoKat wrote:It was a joke. It was a little joke.
That makes even less sense. Jokes are supposed to be funny in some way? If so, I'm sorry to say that it failed.
NaoKat wrote:You cant be serious? Those screenshots prove I am innocent, I was calling a regular player an idiot, and that isnt against any rule,
It's not against any rule? I doubt that. Calling anyone an idiot is not very friendly and ought to be avoided. In that regard, moderators are no diffrent than "normal" players.
NaoKat wrote:How is it not a joke? Do you actually think I would let something like that happen? XD anyways, i didn't swear or try to date. Its an obvious joke, and everyone took it too seriously... Except for the good kids that ignored what I said, or they just dont care.
Hmm. It seems you're calling a player named "LisasBrother" an idiot. Might be that that's really a child - the name suggests it - and the question the player asked ("what does it mean?") suggests lack of understanding. You didn't explain and waved it away with a "nothing". Might be the best reaction, but that way the player was even more confused I'm afraid. Probably...not a good joke, but no disaster either, apart from the insult.
NaoKat wrote:I never called any admin or moderator, or any authority an idiot.
Even those very kids that sometimes go on all our nerves have rights and are human beeings. Don't call anyone an idiot. And don't distinguish between persons of authority and other persons. The server owner and his assigned admins/moderators have the authority when it comes to deciding which rules ought to apply on the server, or when something technical or even regarding art (which materials where, where to build what) comes into play. But that's just their job. Apart from that, all are human beeings and ought to be treated as valuable human beeings. Well, perhaps apart from griefers....those need to be thrown out. But that's not the issue here.
NaoKat wrote:The screenshots prove my innocence because I was completely confused why Ice was going crazy. And Ice said, "you want me to remove your perms?" and i said "wat/" (meaning to put a question mark) and after that, i got my perms removed. And a bit before that, Ice asked, do you want to get banned? and I said no, why? It was obvious I was confused, and I had no chance to understand why I got my perms taken away.
It can sometimes get confusing in chat, and messages overlap due to the time it takes to type them in and get them distributed to all participants. I once had an extreme delay of 20 minutes while chatting with a server owner. That made communication...tricky, frustrating and not very successful. Misunderstandings in chat can easily happen. You seem to really have thought of your sentence as a harmless joke and thus didn't understand the reaction.
Kelena wrote:All you need is a little bit of common sense, "Is the thing I'm going to say suitable for an E rated game?"
Whatever an "E rated game" might be. By German law, Minetest might be considered entirely inappropriate for children - not because of how the game is but because no one ever officialy put a stamp on it saying "this is for age xyz". But at least that's not a problem here - not even NaoKat thought it'd be an appropriate topic of conversation for children.
NaoKat wrote:*she* and i am not guilty
The same style of writing as in the chat - which underlines that what you said wasn't aimed at a female person but just correcting a grammatical error because someone wasn't aware of your gender.
IceAgeComing wrote:Second of all, i never saw you apologizing for that little "joke" of yours, just smiley faces after i asked if you want to get banned. So i took it as you are laughing on the rules and you are not taking my warning seriously. So i asked my fellow moderators to vote if they think you deserve privs takens.
You might have been a bit too fast for NaoKat here.
NaoKat wrote:That is where you are wrong. Games are fine, I would never say anything like that in real life, in a public place. Its a game, and what people can do, is IGNORE IT
There used to be that old set of rules for the Usenet, before the WWW became popular. The most basic rule was "remember that there's another human beeing sitting at the other end of the linie". That's still true. So...if you think something would not be a good idea in real life, because it might hurt people, don't say it in the game either. That is...excluding things which are perfectly normal in the game but would be out of place in rl ("got a stack of bricks for a gold ingot?" :))
NaoKat wrote:Have you ever seen most comedy shows? They have more vulgar humor, and guess what? ITS FOR THE WORLD TO SEE!
But that's nothing uniformly agreed upon either. There is a very very narrow gap between excellent humor - especially once it gets to the more intelligent and biting forms - and plain insult/stupidity/illegality. Humor on that level requires a lot of thought and consenus as to what can be the topic of the humor. Very simple jokes are more likely to work universally amongst humanity.
NaoKat wrote:The only thing I really hate, is people that can't understand if something is a joke or not, and then get crazy over it. They can't let any of this go, they just hang on to it like its a big deal, but its not.
That's because it never felt like a joke to them in the first place. It's something requiring an apology from the point of view of those people that "can't let any of this go".
neri2 wrote:With this in mind yes, inserting such things into the game would be considered wrong place, wrong time, wrong game.
Certainly.
Inocudom wrote:If all you guys know how to do is hate and curse each other, Minetest's community is done for. oOChainLynxOo was not wholly in the wrong, you know. Now, I am starting to see with my own eyes why he left.
No, don't worry. It's just some normal human interaction and misunderstanding. Happens all the time when people meet each other - sooner or later.
IceAgeComing wrote:Currently having amazing time friends drowning the bees, haha.
Poor bees :-) I'm going to found a save-the-bees organization! :)
Neon wrote:There is nothing else that can profitably come out of this.
Well, probably not. I still hope that both parties understand that "the other side" is not as bad as they think.
