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Ok, everything is documented now except the deployer - I don't understand how it works. :-)

VanessaE wrote:Ok, everything is documented now except the deployer - I don't understand how it works. :-)

when something enters it the deployer shoots it out in front of it. like a garbage chute and making stuff go in lava

No, what the deployer does it that it does the same as a player right_clicking with the items in his inventory. So it will place blocks or items depending on what they are, or it will do the same as if you right_clicked the node if it does something.

The mese pipe will prevent any item from leaving through that direction when off (the blocks in the line don't change anything).

Ok, I get it now. I think I spotted a bug though - If the deployer is set to place a node such as sand or wood, it does not subtract it from its inventory. That is, if I put say 5 wood blocks into the deployer and instruct it to place one, there are still 5 in the deployer's inventory. This doesn't happen with craft items like a steel ingot.

Also, suggestion: Change the deployer's inventory to 5x2 or 4x2 spaces instead of 3x3 - it looks like a crafting grid right now :-)

Also, accessing the deployer's inventory is very slow compared to elsewhere.

That's strange, because I don't have that bug (just tested it, it works fine).

Odd. Is it possible that I didn't get some change you've made? I just re-checked my local copy and it's definitely up-to-date.

This screenshot from the first post shows how I've set up this device (for the sake of the screenshot, in fact):

Just checked, mine is up-to-date too. What version of minetest are you using?

A few days old, but I've just updated to the very latest git of both minetest and minetest_game, checked again that my copy of pipeworks is up-to-date, double-checked that it is copied into my working install of the game, and tried again on a new map. It's still doing the same thing.

Ok, I downloaded the latest git and I saw the problem: in creative mode, the items are unlimited. The deployer reproduces this feature (although it is more a bug for it), because it acts as if the player called "deployer" had right-clicked. The only way to correct it I can now find it to change the line 144 of creative/init.lua with this:

Nore wrote:Ok, I downloaded the latest git and I saw the problem: in creative mode, the items are unlimited. The deployer reproduces this feature (although it is more a bug for it), because it acts as if the player called "deployer" had right-clicked. The only way to correct it I can now find it to change the line 144 of creative/init.lua with this:

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        if placer:get_player_name()~="deployer" then
            return true
        end

is this bug in unified_inventory

Indeed, this happens in the default creative mode. I didn't think to try it in survival mode. Jojoa1997: I doubt it; Unified Inventory doesn't implement infinite stacks.

Jojoa1997: No, it does not happen it Unified Inventory (that's why I didn't notice the bug).

2013-01-27: Tried to fix detection of latest version of technic mod. Limited the number of recipes affected by it - now only the tubes' recipes are disabled when technic is present. All pipe, pipe device, and tube device recipes are the ones found here at all times. Updated the plastic sheet crafting chain to match current homedecor since it was originally derived from that mod.

Nore wrote:Ok, I downloaded the latest git and I saw the problem: in creative mode, the items are unlimited. The deployer reproduces this feature (although it is more a bug for it), because it acts as if the player called "deployer" had right-clicked. The only way to correct it I can now find it to change the line 144 of creative/init.lua with this:

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        if placer:get_player_name()~="deployer" then
            return true
        end

No, it just doesnt care of takin from its inventory the placed item. :)

Another bug with deployer (i use also technic)
Crashes when I try to use deployer
@Down, yeah ill try
@EDIT: updated

Can you post the full error message? Not just the one line.

BZab wrote:

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/minetest/bin/.../builtin/item.lua:236 :
attempt to call method 'get_player_control' (a nil value)

Another bug with deployer (i use also technic)
Crashes when I try to use deployer

Theres no deployer in technic atm. Nore tried to merge it to pipeworks.
I will try to release properly workin deployer code today.

BZab wrote:So.. how to fix it?
Or is it unfixable?

cant you read?

Is the valve working at all?
Oh and I am making a pipe for this so you can use, it maybe for something hope on here.

The valve does not yet work. If you've got pipe-related ideas, I'd like to hear them :-)

Maybe pipes could also "transport" lava?

BZab wrote:Maybe pipes could also "transport" lava?

and thus give heat? some sort of?

heat could be used to get some kind of energy...

Mito551 wrote:

BZab wrote:Maybe pipes could also "transport" lava?

and thus give heat? some sort of?

heat could be used to get some kind of energy...

good idea. i think i will use it in technic

RealBadAngel wrote:

Mito551 wrote:

BZab wrote:Maybe pipes could also "transport" lava?

and thus give heat? some sort of?

heat could be used to get some kind of energy...

good idea. i think i will use it in technic

It could also melt ice eg. in radius 2-3 cubes...
@Down: Dont ya mean sth like elevator... teleport but by the pipe? :D

What about a pipe like mario that make players wrap. but I don't think you can do that, well yet. but My main idea of a pipe is have a way make a dam so I am talking big pipes the size of the blocks it self(Normal Blocks).

Btw VanessaE this is just for you, for making Pipeworks, a very great mod! infact this should be on, 0.4.5 main game.
(Stand for: "◘" Pump ; "═══╦╗═══╬╝" Pipes ; "■" any block you like as)

◘═══╦╗
■═══╬╝

BZab wrote:

RealBadAngel wrote:

Mito551 wrote:
and thus give heat? some sort of?

heat could be used to get some kind of energy...

good idea. i think i will use it in technic

It could also melt ice eg. in radius 2-3 cubes...

And provide lighting...

rarkenin wrote:

BZab wrote:

RealBadAngel wrote:
good idea. i think i will use it in technic

It could also melt ice eg. in radius 2-3 cubes...

And provide lighting...

Cold beer and nice chicks for all too ;)

BTW Deployer is back again in Technic. It cannot be used anymore as duplicator.
But need to make it able to place only nodes. Anyway, it works now as intended.

First I need someone to patch pipeworks to be able to handle multiple fluids. Mauvebic has code that can do this but I don't understand how it works. Then we can talk about moving lava around. :-)

2013-01-31: Removed deployer and node breaker - these should be part of Technic only, not pipeworks, and the ones in that mod work fine now. Added aliases back to Technic's original versions. Moved related code into pipeworks/attic.

(Sorry, Nore... :-/ )

Hmm, I was thinking about edit the, code and, make a new pipeworks called, Heavy Duty Pipeworks if it fine, with you VanessaE.

Edit:First I will make a new pump and pipes. oh btw what, is the pipes textures file called, VanessaE?