[Mod] Throwing enhanced [maint.] [throwing]

[Echoes91]

Updated to 1.4

Say welcome to the spears! They bring new possibilities to the gameplay by mixing ranged and melee effects. They're also another step for me into understanding how to code throws that move from the bow-arrow scheme, so you can expect more kinds of flying objects for the next releases :)
There's an issue about them magically repairing after being thrown since they do not retain the wear due to melee use, however it's someway balanced by their chance to break.
Arrows textures have also been improved a bit.

could some one please make a mod to match Minecraft's Bow and Arrow??

Not me :) I'm quite sure that this mod is far more complete than Minecraft's content, however if there is any feature you may like then just ask!

[benrob0329]

Could you incorperate the arrow sticking and pointing code from basic_bow?

[Echoes91]

Updated to 1.4.1

Spears now retain wearing and have no more a random chance to break. This would be nice for arrows too but it's unlikely due to them being (obviously) stackable.
Many textures have been improved and torch arrows now emit light while flying too (like fireworks).

Could you incorperate the arrow sticking and pointing code from basic_bow?

I had a look, it seems nice but implies some problems. Arrows are mainly meant to hit mobs, not blocks, and I don't like them passing through mobs like basic bow's ones and neither would be nice for them to remain stuck in the air after hit. I'm not sure if I'll find a coherent behavior that can be implemented.

[Napiophelios]

Could you incorperate the arrow sticking and pointing code from basic_bow?

I had a look, it seems nice but implies some problems. Arrows are mainly meant to hit mobs, not blocks, and I don't like them passing through mobs like basic bow's ones and neither would be nice for them to remain stuck in the air after hit. I'm not sure if I'll find a coherent behavior that can be implemented.

I have had no problems with striking mobs;
I also havent seen any arrows sitting in the air after striking a mob,
Unlike the original crossbow, I have the life span of arrows pretty short once they land some where.

just make sure the mobs mod you are using is in the list (basic_bow_entities line 21+)
you also have to target the entities' collision boxes for the arrows to "hit"
Its weird but the cow is the hardest mob for me to kill from a distance because of this.

What I worry about is basic_bow's effectiveness vs. other players.
This is something I just havent had the means to test out.

It was and still is my intent that the basic_bow is really meant for hunting and archery competitions.
For pvp warfare and just plain adventuring; throwing / throwing enhanced are the way to go.

I would like to see the spear behave like basic_bow and stick into nodes...that would be awesome :)

[Echoes91]

I have had no problems with striking mobs;
I also havent seen any arrows sitting in the air after striking a mob,
Unlike the original crossbow, I have the life span of arrows pretty short once they land some where.

just make sure the mobs mod you are using is in the list (basic_bow_entities line 21+)
you also have to target the entities' collision boxes for the arrows to "hit"
Its weird but the cow is the hardest mob for me to kill from a distance because of this.

Indeed they travel through mobs and stick into the first block they meet. I want them to stop after hitting, but they would stick in the air if they believed to have hit a block. The best way would be to add them as a drop from the mob, but doesn't look actually possible.

What I worry about is basic_bow's effectiveness vs. other players.
This is something I just havent had the means to test out.

It was and still is my intent that the basic_bow is really meant for hunting and archery competitions.
For pvp warfare and just plain adventuring; throwing / throwing enhanced are the way to go.

That's not possible form me to test too, as stated in the first post. However the reloading system prevents firing huge salvos like a machine gun shooting arrows, which would kill anything and anybody quicker than any sword.

[Napiophelios]

Apologies, I misunderstood what you meant.
I never realized they continued on and passed
thru the entities after destroying them.

[swordpaint12]

Is this mod stable? I used PilzAdam's throwing mod and whenever I tried to shoot the arrow the game would crash (4.12/4.13). Does this mod have the same problem?

[Echoes91]

Is this mod stable? I used PilzAdam's throwing mod and whenever I tried to shoot the arrow the game would crash (4.12/4.13). Does this mod have the same problem?

It works nicely, at least for me :)
Of course you better try yourself to be sure!
PilzAdam's throwing looked quite abandoned when I forked this one, I'm still doing the best that I can to enhance and support it through the latest game releases.

It was and still is my intent that the basic_bow is really meant for hunting and archery competitions.

By the way, I noticed that your arrows, other than looking much better than these ones, also fly with the right pitch to follow the trajectory. That's really pleasant to see, whatever is the target. I hope some day to see the best features of our mods merged together; that would be awesome, if only I had the time and skill to understand how...

[swordpaint12]

Okay, sweet. Thanks!

[Napiophelios]

By the way, I noticed that your arrows, other than looking much better than these ones, also fly with the right pitch to follow the trajectory. That's really pleasant to see, whatever is the target.

Thats all Stu's awesome coding, All kudos go to him.

I just seperated it / condensed it into a single file
and dressed it up like a bow. :)

I hope some day to see the best features of our mods merged together; that would be awesome, if only I had the time and skill to understand how...

I used an older simpler version of the crossbow code,
Stu has added arrows of all colors to the latest version;
So I am sure its possible to add all the variants of Throwing_enhanced's arrows to basic_bow
but I dont think its very fitting for most of the special arrows IMO.

I honestly have the most fun just using basic_bow for target practice,
its simple and that appeals to me.

I have been working on the spear mod though that sticks into nodes;
Just need a few more tweaks and I think I will have a working prototype soon :)

[Don]

When you get the spear made I might make a target practice game for my board games mod pack if you don't mind.
I think people will like that.

[Napiophelios]

When you get the spear made I might make a target practice game for my board games mod pack if you don't mind.
I think people will like that.

ooh you could make a dart board
that would be cool

[Don]

When you get the spear made I might make a target practice game for my board games mod pack if you don't mind.
I think people will like that.

ooh you could make a dart board
that would be cool

That would be cool. Feel free to make a game and I will add it to the modpack.

[Echoes91]

Since I'm not really satisfied of how it looks overall, mainly the bow reload process and crossbow wielding due to API limitations, I'll stop adding features directly to this mod by now. I'll still try to maintain it through new Minetest releases if some adaptation is needed but in the meantime I'm starting to put together new mods merging the features i like the most from this one and other ideas around.
I'm still not sure but it will probably end having separate mods for spears and fireworks.
Thanks for all your appreciation, proposals and feedback. I hope to make good use of what I've learned during this months :)

[Don]

Looking forward to seeing new mods. Keep up the great work!

[Echoes91]

Please note that spears are being developed further and published in their new topic. Fixes and improvements will not be ported here any longer.

[Diamond knight]

Idea:maybe add a very endgame arrow machine gun that fires salvos of arrows like classic throwing, but the arrows shot from it almost always break, even diamond arrows, and to power it you need to craft it and a mese crystal for every say, 50 arrows shot (or charged batteries if technic enabled) (the recharging is to make it less op)

[Echoes91]

Throwing enhanced is now in maintenance status. No more new features will be directly added here, but its components will be gradually separated and developed further. The original mod will eventually be turned into a modpack once everything will be working good as standalone mods.

Spears have been removed to avoid any conflict with my new Spears mod.

[Don]

A modpack would be good.

[SaKeL]

Hi, i am testing this mode with basic arrows on my PvP server (SaKeL Test) but it seems to not doing any damage to the players. Is there any setting for this ? Thanks.

[SaKeL]

i have added this to the standard_arrows and it works perfectly ! woohhooo cant wait to kill someone :D
Would be maybe nice to add it to the global setting and set also different arrow damage per bow.

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local ARROW_DAMAGE = 1

for k, obj in pairs(objs) do
   -- begin player damage
   if obj:is_player() then
      obj:set_hp(obj:get_hp()-ARROW_DAMAGE)
      self.object:remove()
   end
   -- end player damage

   if obj:get_luaentity() ~= nil then

...


[Echoes91]

Hi, i am testing this mode with basic arrows on my PvP server (SaKeL Test) but it seems to not doing any damage to the players. Is there any setting for this ? Thanks.

As stated at the introduction, this mod is NOT tested for PvP but only balanced against Mobs Redo's creatures, i had no idea about what those arrows would do against a player.

i have added this to the standard_arrows and it works perfectly ! woohhooo cant wait to kill someone :D
Would be maybe nice to add it to the global setting and set also different arrow damage per bow.

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local ARROW_DAMAGE = 1

for k, obj in pairs(objs) do
   -- begin player damage
   if obj:is_player() then
      obj:set_hp(obj:get_hp()-ARROW_DAMAGE)
      self.object:remove()
   end
   -- end player damage

   if obj:get_luaentity() ~= nil then

...


The damage dealt by arrows to entities already depends on their speed and material, so it depends also on the weapon's stiffness since it determines the arrow's starting speed. You could have added the "is_player" flag to my code instead of setting a constant damage that overrides it and adding a new cycle.

[Minetestforfun]

Hi,

If you want to use this mod with PvP feel free to use our forked version, it includes :

Many bugfixs
Many crashfixs
Arrow trajectory corrections
Adapted for PVP
32px textures
arrow aren't blocked by some biomes nodes (like grass for example)
etc...

You can download it here : https://github.com/MinetestForFun/serve ... s/throwing

(@echoes91 : for the moment the initial version of this mod can't hit players because of the "gauges:hp_bar" => https://github.com/MinetestForFun/serve ... ns.lua#L27)

(PS : This forked version was improved by the MinetestForFun devs team including mainly @crabman but also @LeMagnesium and @gravgun)

[SaKeL]

great thanks a lot !

[burli]

Got an error message

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2016-03-10 19:18:54: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer uses throwing:bow_royal_loaded, pointing at [nothing]
2016-03-10 19:18:54: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer uses throwing:bow_royal_loaded, pointing at [node under=4,3,135 above=4,3,136]
2016-03-10 19:18:54: ERROR[ServerThread]: LuaEntity name "" not defined
2016-03-10 19:18:54: ERROR[main]: ServerError: Lua: Runtime error from mod 'throwing' in callback item_OnUse(): /home/markus/.minetest/mods/throwing/functions.lua:34: attempt to index a nil value
2016-03-10 19:18:54: ERROR[main]: stack traceback:
2016-03-10 19:18:54: ERROR[main]:    /home/markus/.minetest/mods/throwing/functions.lua:34: in function 'throwing_shoot_arrow'
2016-03-10 19:18:54: ERROR[main]:    /home/markus/.minetest/mods/throwing/functions.lua:106: in function </home/markus/.minetest/mods/throwing/functions.lua:100>
2016-03-10 19:18:54: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer leaves game. List of players:

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