[Mod] Throwing, PilzAdam version [throwing]

[BrunoMine]

did not work! Took no damage.

[philipbenr]

Adam, could you add damage support in Simple mobs. I have a whole castle to defend from oekkri and stone monsters.

[BrunoMine]

Help! Can someone help me. I played in multiplayer and did not work properly. There was no damage. I used the arrow cooreta but did not.

[PilzAdam]

I finally stoped being lazy for 1 minute and upgraded to the new damage system; everything should work now.

[BrunoMine]

I finally stoped being lazy for 1 minute and upgraded to the new damage system; everything should work now.

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[Mossmanikin]

Yes! Works fine.
Finally one can hunt with bow and arrow again. :)

[BrunoMine]

If I want to disable the mod in my server.
This can damage the server? Or let it slow?

I think of disable and enable the mod constantly. (for any purpose)

What do you say to that?

[PilzAdam]

If I want to disable the mod in my server.
This can damage the server? Or let it slow?

I think of disable and enable the mod constantly. (for any purpose)

What do you say to that?

I dont know what you mean by "damage the server". If you remove it then people get unkown items in their inventories instead of the bows and arrows, and arrows in the world will show up as unknown objects. When you re-enable the mod, then the unknown objects and items should turn back into what they were originally.

[BrunoMine]

If I want to disable the mod in my server.
This can damage the server? Or let it slow?

I think of disable and enable the mod constantly. (for any purpose)

What do you say to that?

I dont know what you mean by "damage the server". If you remove it then people get unkown items in their inventories instead of the bows and arrows, and arrows in the world will show up as unknown objects. When you re-enable the mod, then the unknown objects and items should turn back into what they were originally.

alright! but anyway.
If I just turn off. the server is slow?

[PilzAdam]

If I want to disable the mod in my server.
This can damage the server? Or let it slow?

I think of disable and enable the mod constantly. (for any purpose)

What do you say to that?

I dont know what you mean by "damage the server". If you remove it then people get unkown items in their inventories instead of the bows and arrows, and arrows in the world will show up as unknown objects. When you re-enable the mod, then the unknown objects and items should turn back into what they were originally.

alright! but anyway.
If I just turn off. the server is slow?

No, there is no reason why disabling a mod would slow down the server. In fact, disabling mods should speed up the server (depends on the mod, though).

[Melkor]

I tried making my own arrows for this mod, using my very very old WCC mod as a container for experiments, replacing the weighted cube for this:



but that didn't work in the Throwing mod:



Now they are darts, they are almost invisible :)

here is the arrow if anyone is interested:

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--        stick
        {-0.5,0.0,0.0, 0.5,0.06250,0.06250},

--        point
        {-0.43750,0.06250,-0.0, -0.31250,0.12500,0.06250},
        {-0.43750,-0.06250,0.0, -0.31250,0.0,0.06250},

--        feather up
        {0.18750,0.06250,0.0, 0.43750,0.12500,0.06250},
        {0.25000,0.12500,0.0, 0.43750,0.18750,0.06250},
--        feather down
        {0.18750,-0.06250,0.0, 0.43750,0.0,0.06250},
        {0.25000,-0.12500,0.0, 0.43750,-0.06250,0.06250},
--        feather right
        {0.18750,0.0,-0.0625, 0.43750,0.06250,0.0},
        {0.25000,0.0,-0.12500, 0.43750,0.06250,-0.06250},
--        feather left
        {0.18750,0.0,0.06250, 0.43750,0.06250,0.12500},
        {0.25000,0.0,0.12500, 0.43750,0.06250,0.18750},


[DaN]

The throwing mod isn't working for me now (migrated from 0.4.6 to 0.4.7-dev); I left-click, it acts like a regular item (you punch with it). No arrows are shot, and no arrows are lost. Any ideas?

EDIT: My bad. It seems I have to equip arrows in one of my main slots and then shoot the bow.

[DaN]

I tried making my own arrows for this mod, using my very very old WCC mod as a container for experiments, replacing the weighted cube for this:

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll190/melkor_666/MineTest/screenshot_18319620_zps71193162.png

but that didn't work in the Throwing mod:

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll190/melkor_666/MineTest/screenshot_19421655_zpscaa47239.png

Now they are darts, they are almost invisible :)

here is the arrow if anyone is interested:

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--        stick
        {-0.5,0.0,0.0, 0.5,0.06250,0.06250},

--        point
        {-0.43750,0.06250,-0.0, -0.31250,0.12500,0.06250},
        {-0.43750,-0.06250,0.0, -0.31250,0.0,0.06250},

--        feather up
        {0.18750,0.06250,0.0, 0.43750,0.12500,0.06250},
        {0.25000,0.12500,0.0, 0.43750,0.18750,0.06250},
--        feather down
        {0.18750,-0.06250,0.0, 0.43750,0.0,0.06250},
        {0.25000,-0.12500,0.0, 0.43750,-0.06250,0.06250},
--        feather right
        {0.18750,0.0,-0.0625, 0.43750,0.06250,0.0},
        {0.25000,0.0,-0.12500, 0.43750,0.06250,-0.06250},
--        feather left
        {0.18750,0.0,0.06250, 0.43750,0.06250,0.12500},
        {0.25000,0.0,0.12500, 0.43750,0.06250,0.18750},


Cool

[markbe]

A change to the default farming in Minetest 0.4.10 has unintentionally broken crafting of bows in Throwing by renaming/redefining gathered cotton to "cotton" rather than "string" (it possibly makes more sense)

As a work-around ... if you want to craft bows with cotton, add the following to the init.lua for throwing:

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minetest.register_craft({
   output = 'throwing:bow_wood',
   recipe = {
      {'farming:cotton', 'default:wood', ''},
      {'farming:cotton', '', 'default:wood'},
      {'farming:cotton', 'default:wood', ''},
   }
})

minetest.register_craft({
   output = 'throwing:bow_stone',
   recipe = {
      {'farming:cotton', 'default:cobble', ''},
      {'farming:cotton', '', 'default:cobble'},
      {'farming:cotton', 'default:cobble', ''},
   }
})

minetest.register_craft({
   output = 'throwing:bow_steel',
   recipe = {
      {'farming:cotton', 'default:steel_ingot', ''},
      {'farming:cotton', '', 'default:steel_ingot'},
      {'farming:cotton', 'default:steel_ingot', ''},
   }
})


There's probably a more efficient way of making that work but I don't know LUA yet :-)

Another idea is crafting string from cotton but that's too tricky for me just yet

[SAMIAMNOT]

Im totally getting this. I would like to see some official screenshots though, Pilz--ahem--Adam.

[SAMIAMNOT]

real bomb explodes at target

Grenade?

[LodeRunner]

Folks,

I've been trying to learn lua and minetest by reading the code for a bunch of mods. One of the items that I'm most interested in is the bow/arrow model, as I'd like to eventually create additional mobs who use bows also, sort of like the skeletons from MC but not exactly. Therefore, I had some questions:

1) Just as a learning experience, I tried to adapt the TNT arrow from the original throwing mod to this one. However, it uses the iron-TNT item from the nuke mod which is not what I prefer. I'd like to stick with the existing TNT mod that is part of the base install. However, when looking at the code, I don't think that I can detonate the default TNT by just hitting it or having it hit something else--I don't think that it's coded for that. Being new to lua, I wasn't sure if the code for how detonation happens should be taken from tnt:tnt or from the code for the arrow itself.

2) Other than including a reference to tnt:tnt in the crafting recipe and the depends.txt, would I need to reference the tnt:tnt lua code in any way? Does lua use cross-referencing like this, or does all the code have to reside in the lua file for the arrow?

3) Does this item (a TNT arrow) already exist for this version of the throwing mod?

4) I had also thought about creating an arrow that would attach a "torch" to wherever the arrow hits/lands, thereby allowing to get torches to otherwise inaccessible locations. Does a "torch arrow" already exist?

5) Would it make sense to develop an api.lua file that would hold common code about arrows? It seems that this mod has lots of potential, not only for players but new mobs as well. Not knowing enough to know better, this seemed like a legit question.

Thanks for any help!

[SAMIAMNOT]

Im not sure about the coding part but from what I remember you nee a fuse to detonate TNT. If you arent planning to make Skelly throw gunpowder and fire along with his TNT you might have to reference to the detonating code. If the TNT mod uses a function to detonate the TNT just referring to the function should do the trick.
Sorry if my advice doesnt help. I sont know Lua but I do code in Python and JavaScript so I do kinda know what Im talking about. Kinda.
Im interested in this mod youre talking about, its a fascinating concept.

[Calinou]

Folks,

I've been trying to learn lua and minetest by reading the code for a bunch of mods. One of the items that I'm most interested in is the bow/arrow model, as I'd like to eventually create additional mobs who use bows also, sort of like the skeletons from MC but not exactly. Therefore, I had some questions:

1) Just as a learning experience, I tried to adapt the TNT arrow from the original throwing mod to this one. However, it uses the iron-TNT item from the nuke mod which is not what I prefer. I'd like to stick with the existing TNT mod that is part of the base install. However, when looking at the code, I don't think that I can detonate the default TNT by just hitting it or having it hit something else--I don't think that it's coded for that. Being new to lua, I wasn't sure if the code for how detonation happens should be taken from tnt:tnt or from the code for the arrow itself.

2) Other than including a reference to tnt:tnt in the crafting recipe and the depends.txt, would I need to reference the tnt:tnt lua code in any way? Does lua use cross-referencing like this, or does all the code have to reside in the lua file for the arrow?

3) Does this item (a TNT arrow) already exist for this version of the throwing mod?

4) I had also thought about creating an arrow that would attach a "torch" to wherever the arrow hits/lands, thereby allowing to get torches to otherwise inaccessible locations. Does a "torch arrow" already exist?

5) Would it make sense to develop an api.lua file that would hold common code about arrows? It seems that this mod has lots of potential, not only for players but new mobs as well. Not knowing enough to know better, this seemed like a legit question.

Thanks for any help!

Carbone has a modified throwing mod with torch arrows (places a torch at landing location), dig arrows (digs at landing location) and build arrows (builds obsidian glass at landing location). However, the torches will always be placed on their “ceiling” variation.

[LodeRunner]

Samiamnot and Calinou,

Thanks for your feedback.

S - That helps me to flesh out what I was thinking. I wasn't sure about referencing the function, but I thought that might be necessary. Detonation will be the real trick here, methinks. If I do a skeleton-related mob, I was initially thinking of just normal arrows, that way I could confirm one piece of the puzzle at a time. Other projectiles would come later. *evil grin*

C - Thanks for the tip. Using the graphic for ceiling attachment may not be an issue at the start. I was just wanting to do a proof-of-concept mod for myself. If I were to get anything useful, I'd let everyone know what I developed, but I'm a bit too far away from that to say at the moment.

I'll keep working on this when I can. I have family members who are ill right now, so my time to invest is sporadic.

[LodeRunner]

Folks,

Just in case this issue has plagued anyone, I wanted to cross-post a link to another discussion.

Several people asked if there was a way to have mobs drop their respective items when killed by arrows, as this didn't seem to be happening. Swords worked fine, but not arrows.

Here is a solution that may be helpful for people:

https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=3063&p=162717#p162717

I have tested it with hostile and non-hostile mobs, and it appears to work, but please see the boldface caveat in the explanation, as that may have an effect on its use.

Moderator - if cross-posting like this is a breach of policy, my apologies. Please adjust as you see fit.

[Samson1]

What this mod needs are much better textures for the textures that it has at the moment are so got that it does not look like an arrow, the bow does not have a pull back time and it does not have any animation. You can not have dig arrows/build arrows. I would think about changing the default textures and re making the mod

[benrob0329]

I use [throwing] enhanced, it's based off of this mod. As for the animation, this isn't currently possibe with the way that the HUD works.

[Samson1]

Do you think you could make the arrow stick into blocks? like wooden fence and wood and so on?

[Echoes91]

If you're interested, my throwing enhanced mod which was forked from this one has now more complex reload and damage systems (with different reload times and stiffness), improved textures and contents (crossbows, spears and many different arrows) and it's still being developed.
If you like sticking arrows have a look at the basic bow mod, which already implements it; I'm also looking at its code but I'm still not sure if adding such a feature.

[pithy]

Would it be possible to make this work with an armor mod so that you put your bow in your shield slot to allow you to throw arrows?

[saavedra29]

Hello, thank's for this great code.
I'm making some changes to fit it in my own needs. But since i focus on realism i want to make it impossible for the bow to reload and shoot if at least (for example) 2 seconds haven't past since the last shot. But on this mod i can shoot every single moment i press the key. The "punch" function confuses me.

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obj:punch(self.object, 1.0, {
    full_punch_interval=1.0,
    damage_groups={fleshy=damage},
}, nil)

Here i see two 1.0s and thought one of them would create some forced delay. But it doesn't. Does anyone have an idea how to implement this "delay"?