[mod] Underground Realms [0.8] [caverealms]

[HeroOfTheWinds]

This should be the MT version of the Nether!!! XP

I almost feel as if an ancient (alien? Think where Mese came from...) civilisation lived down here at one time...

Either way the caves are beautiful, but do you think that they could generate farther down? I like that you don't have to mine too far down, but it feels like its too far up, almost taking away from mining...

This is a setting that individual users/servers can manipulate. In the file "config.lua", there is a line

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setting("number", "ymax", -700) --top realm limit

which you can change. Just use a number less than -700 to make the caves generate deeper. Some servers I know of have set it as deep as -3000... However, just be mindful of these other lines when changing the depth of the caves:

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--realm limits for Dungeon Masters' Lair
setting("number", "dm_top", -4000) --upper limit
setting("number", "dm_bot", -5000) --lower limit

...

--Deep cave settings
setting("number", "deep_cave", -7000) -- upper limit

If need be, lower those values too.

Enjoy!

[benrob0329]

Oh ok, thanks! I'll have to look for the other ones now to!

[Inocudom]

If, by ancient aliens, you are referring to a race that existed before modern man, the following YouTube video should interest you:
https://youtu.be/7Fi4WOHW0NI
The twilight that is spoken of is also known as the Purple Dawn, by the way.

[benrob0329]

EDIT: I thought you were talking about the TV show...

[duane]

The idea of being able to harvest sticks down in the CaveRealms intrigues me.

Mushroom stems! That's what I did in Valley Mapgen. Journey to the Center of the Earth fashion.

[benrob0329]

What if this also was able to use mobs_redo and make a King Dungeoun Master mob that only spawned in his castle? And what if only one, HUGE one was generated?

[HeroOfTheWinds]

What if this also was able to use mobs_redo and make a King Dungeoun Master mob that only spawned in his castle? And what if only one, HUGE one was generated?

You don't know how much I wished MT had the right set up for a "boss-mob" mod... I really want to have a boss down in the Dungeon Master Realm, but MT is just so clumsy with even the small mobs. Goodness knows how bad a huge one would be... But no, I really like that idea, shame it's out of reach atm...

Hmm, I guess I could use the giant mushroom stems for crafting sticks. Still, I'll need parallels for the DM realms and the Deep Caves... That said, you do realize that you can just use the glowing crystals as replacement torches, right?

[benrob0329]

What if this also was able to use mobs_redo and make a King Dungeoun Master mob that only spawned in his castle? And what if only one, HUGE one was generated?

You don't know how much I wished MT had the right set up for a "boss-mob" mod... I really want to have a boss down in the Dungeon Master Realm, but MT is just so clumsy with even the small mobs. Goodness knows how bad a huge one would be... But no, I really like that idea, shame it's out of reach atm...

Hmmm, perhaps someone should make a test mod using Mobs Redo testing my theory (I could try, but I'm working on my C++ right now...):

If you generated a spawning block that kept the position of the DM after server restart, and defined the DM with non despawning, you could, in theory, do it. However maybe that should wait until the C++ mobs API is done.

[HeroOfTheWinds]

That isn't really the problem I'm thinking of, though that could potentially be one too.

The problem with MT mods is the lack of client-side prediction. E.G. the client application doesn't smooth out movements and attacks of mobs by having the server and the client compute the AI of the mobs... Leading it to appear to users that the mobs are jittering or outright warping around, taking little knockback from attacks, and sometimes even shrugging off damage because lol MT's punch mechanisms need a lot of work. Mobs Redo has helped a lot here, but the prediction is still a huge factor, as is trying to punch mobs. Not sure if it's still there, but another problem had been that consecutive punches didn't work unless you move the crosshairs away from the hit box then back onto it.

So, if this is the case, what of a giant hitbox, e.g. a boss? You'd have this big composite cube of pain jittering about, dodging you when you could swear you hit him, and potentially forcing you to turn 90 degrees back and forth until you could hit again. Plus, the only damage mechanism in MT is either projectiles or "punches"... How would you calculate the punches on something that big, barring some really hacky code?

Also, I'd like for a huge boss to be "climbable", so that you had to get onto his shoulders to be able to attack his head to kill him. Entities in MT currently have no such function for collisions between pairs of entities, so you could walk right through the boss' legs too.

Those are just my thoughts on the matter. Perhaps one day MT will let us realize this dream, but until then, I guess the best chance would be maybe having a "monster room" type of challenge, with 10 or so DMs in the same fort. >:D

Meanwhile, I'll keep on making my fighting game in Unity3D.

[benrob0329]

So your saying that the biggest problems would be servers and a lack of functionality, hopefully 0.5.0's improved performance and reworked server client communications will help, as well as the improving client side prediction and C++ mobs API.

Wow, I just realised (or re realised) how much I CANT WAIT FOR 0.5.0!

[Diamond knight]

this is really good for showing that minetest is not a minecraft knockoff

[duane]

I finally got tired of lava mucking up the caverns, so I stuck this in. It also helps keep the goblins from skydiving in and leaving tools everywhere.

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diff --git a/init.lua b/init.lua
index 8921baa..9944a8d 100644
--- a/init.lua
+++ b/init.lua
@@ -122,6 +122,7 @@ minetest.register_on_generated(function(minp, maxp, seed)
        end
       
        local c_water = minetest.get_content_id("default:water_source")
+       local c_river = minetest.get_content_id("default:river_water_source")
        local c_lava = minetest.get_content_id("default:lava_source")
        local c_ice = minetest.get_content_id("default:ice")
        local c_thinice = minetest.get_content_id("caverealms:thin_ice")
@@ -191,6 +192,10 @@ minetest.register_on_generated(function(minp, maxp, seed)
                        for x = x0, x1 do -- for each node do
                                if (nvals_cave[nixyz] + nvals_wave[nixyz])/2 > tcave then --if node falls within cave threshold
                                        data[vi] = c_air --hollow it out to make the cave
+                               elseif (nvals_cave[nixyz] + nvals_wave[nixyz])/2 > tcave - 0.2 then
+                                       if data[vi] == c_lava or data[vi] == c_water or data[vi] == c_river then
+                                               data[vi] = c_air
+                                       end
                                end
                                --increment indices
                                nixyz = nixyz + 1

[Inocudom]

It looks like HeroOfTheWinds is gone from Minetest for all eternity too...

[benrob0329]

From what I can tell he falls off the face of the Earth every little while, I highly doubt that he has left MT.

[HeroOfTheWinds]

It looks like HeroOfTheWinds is gone from Minetest for all eternity too...

From what I can tell he falls off the face of the Earth every little while, I highly doubt that he has left MT.

Aye, I haven't left, I've just been buried under Computation Physics, Data Structures, Computer Organization and Assembly Language, and Calculus II. I might as well be the fossils I study in Anthropology 110: Archaeology. :P

So, while I'm fairly dormant, look for me to resume activity around mid-December. :)

Rest assured, I miss having the time for this....................................................................

[twoelk]

Archaeology on Hawaii? - Sounds interesting

[Gael de Sailly]

The sky should become black when we go deep underground, because when a big cave is not completely loaded, we can see blue sky.

[ssieb]

The sky should become black when we go deep underground, because when a big cave is not completely loaded, we can see blue sky.

That would be an issue with the minetest engine, nothing that this mod can do anything about.

[blert2112]

That would be an issue with the minetest engine, nothing that this mod can do anything about.

player:set_sky()

[MangleFox70]

Is there anything that needs to be added to mg_flags? Or does enabling Underground Realms require creating a new world? We enabled it on our server and can see the related blocks in creative inventory, but so far, we have searched and searched underground and cannot find any realms.

Please help :)

[Gael de Sailly]

You can't find caves on already generated chunks. Go to unexplored places and you may find some of them.

[Nathan.S]

Caves spawn between y = -700 and -33,000, and can be quite extensive. As Gael de Sailly said they do need to be unexplored places, though I think if you turn no clip on, and fly around underground you'll be able to find them in places where the ground level has already been generated because the chunks don't go as deep as is needed to make these caves.

[MangleFox70]

Thanks! We'll give that a try!

Update: You folks are brilliant! Sure enough, noclip made it super simple, but we had been digging in areas which were already spawned before adding the mod. So flying noclip well away from our original village and yay! We found not one but two caverealms! BEAUTIFUL! Really nice work.

[MangleFox70]

Gael de Sailly & Nathan.S -- thanks again for your help. I'm going to mention it on this week's show. Worked a treat!

[Nathan.S]

Gael de Sailly & Nathan.S -- thanks again for your help. I'm going to mention it on this week's show. Worked a treat!

You're welcome, I enjoy the show too by the way.

[MangleFox70]

I enjoy the show too by the way.

Thanks! We're still learning how to pull it all together, but I think it gets better and better with each episode. :) We're having a blast doing it!

[coeseta]

Great mod!
I just made some textures with krita for it, that way it looks even better with the textures from our server :)

[burli]

I tried to spawn in a caverealm. Two times I spawned in a tiny cave less then 10x10x10 nodes, then I spawned in the decoration, I fall to death twice and I spawned in a tiny hole in the wall high above the ground.

I thought about using the spawn function to teleport the player into a caverealm, if that would be possible, but with 6 fails out if 6 I can't use it. I know that it is difficult, but can this be solved?

Edit: maybe this might help

[AlucardXEL]

First of all, amazing app. I have only explored it a bit, but I love it.

Secondly, any idea on when the Center of the Earth cave will be implemented? It would be perfect for one of my builds. If I don't have access to that, I will probably use the special deep level cave.

Thanks.

[JoshMars]

I think 0.4.15 broke this. Updates to the default fire mod removed functions that this mod calls.