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Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 19:31**

ManElevation wrote:Thanks to all developers. What is the difference. appart from the new textures and the mod menu

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 19:34**

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2016 19:44**

has there been any changes to the time it takes wheat to grow I'm having problems growing it and I want to know if it's a me problem or feature of the new minetest
I am cheating a bit by going through creative

nevermind I was being stupid and was cleaning the files in my computer and wiped my game

it took me a stupid long time to find planet ghost but I did it, so re-regard my query pls

Posted: **Tue Dec 27, 2016 16:06**

Hurray!0.4.15 is released!I hope have you added new mobs, e.g from mobs_redo or animals modpack?

Posted: **Tue Dec 27, 2016 16:24**

taikedz wrote:
ManElevation wrote:Thanks to all developers. What is the difference. appart from the new textures and the mod menu

viewtopic.php?p=243949#p243949

Please note this is an unofficial changelog and also incomplete. The official changelog is still not written yet, check the first post later.

has there been any changes to the time it takes wheat to grow I'm having problems growing it and I want to know if it's a me problem or feature of the new minetest

Yes, the farming plant growth mechanic has been completely reworked (see Minetest Game commit 70ef7864c1533cc50ef1da95985ff6b741778066).
According to the commit description, the growth should be now slightly shorter. A fully-grown wheat or cotton plant will now take 2-3 game days or ca. 1 h in real time, if I can believe the description. There's still an element of chance involved, so not all plants grow equally fast.
If your plants don't grow at all then you either found a very embarrassing bug in Minetest Game or you forget something. But the farming gameplay mechanic hasn't changed at all, only the code for growth; this is mostly only an internal change. See also: http://wiki.minetest.net/Wheat_(plant)

Posted: **Tue Dec 27, 2016 16:41**

Andrey01 wrote:Hurray!0.4.15 is released!I hope have you added new mobs, e.g from mobs_redo or animals modpack?

no mobs sorry

Posted: **Wed Dec 28, 2016 00:25**

Explanation of the new Minetest Game stuff

Carts

Crafted from steel ingots (“U” shape like boat)
Place on rails
Rightclick to enter and leave
Sneak+rightclick to collect
Drop items on cart to transport items with the cart
While in cart: Hold down [Down] to slow down (handbrake)
While in cart: Hold down [Left] and [Right] in cart to turn around at T-junctions and crossings
Powered rails accellerate moving carts
Brake rails slow carts down

Keys

Skeleton keys are crafted from a single gold ingot
Used to share access on things with locks (e.g. Locked Chest, Steel Trapdoor, Steel Door)
Rightclick with skeleton key on a locked thing to match the key to it; this turns the skeleton key into a key
Give the key to other people, anyone who possesses the key can open the thing you matched the key to. But only this!
If the locked thing is removed, all keys which have been matched to it become useless; new keys must be created
The owner of locked things never needs to use keys for own things
Keys and skeleton key can always be smelted back to gold ingots

Bushes

Bushes appear in grasslands, decidious forests and snowy lands
Acacia bushes spawn in savannahs
Bush leaves never decay
A bush stem can be crafted to 1 wooden plank

Corals

Corals appear in warm shallow oceans (maybe near deserts or savannahs. Not sure)
Orange Coral and Brown Coral drop coral skeletons; the colored corals can not be “legally” obtained
Orange Coral and Brown Coral turn to Coral Skeleton when exposed to air
Dig with pickaxes
Corals have no real use other than decoration

Tips and tricks

Use a flint and steel on a coal block to create a permanent flame
Flint and steel can finally ignite TNT and gunpowder (bute the torch still works)
Water now creates moss on cobblestone slabs, cobblestone stairs and cobbletone walls
Throw a flammable item (e.g. wooden planks) into lava or fire and it will get destroyed
The mese crytsal fragment is no longer useless—it is used to craft powered rails
Snow blocks and ice now cool down lava as well and turn it into obsidian or stone (like water before)

PS: With my Help modpack and the mod Minetest Game item help [doc_minetest_game] you can access many useful information about Minetest Game in-game.

PPS: This post is neither a changelog nor official. I'm waiting eagerly (like probably everyone else) for the official changelog to appear on the first post.

Posted: **Wed Dec 28, 2016 00:36**

Wuzzy wrote:Explanation of the new Minetest Game stuff
Carts
Crafted from steel ingots (“U” shape like boat)
Place on rails
..
mese crystal fragment .. is used to craft powered rails

Thanks for collecting all those infos !

I was wondering if rails running at 45 degrees would be possible ?

Posted: **Wed Dec 28, 2016 00:38**

I think 45° rails are possible (in theory), the [advtrains] mod uses steps of 30°: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=14726

But I strongly doubt something like this will ever be added to Minetest Game, meaning we're probably stuck with 90° in Minetest Game forever. Reason: This is probably too complex and also clearly breaks with the voxel grid paradigm.
But that's why Minetest has mod and subgame support! :-)

Posted: **Wed Dec 28, 2016 02:08**

Fixerol wrote: -snip-

Some Minetest Game changes: -snip-

[*]Add sfinv to allow tabs to be added to the inventory / Nov 27, 2016 / Mod makers can add tabs to inventory for easier access.

Anyone else notice that sfinv is now the default inventory, even if Unified_Inventory is enabled? Major bug, IMO.

Posted: **Wed Dec 28, 2016 02:35**

Nice! When will it be ready for download in the Debian packaging system? Right now it's still at 0.4.14.

Posted: **Wed Dec 28, 2016 02:55**

KCoombes wrote:
Fixerol wrote: -snip-

Some Minetest Game changes: -snip-

[*]Add sfinv to allow tabs to be added to the inventory / Nov 27, 2016 / Mod makers can add tabs to inventory for easier access.

Anyone else notice that sfinv is now the default inventory, even if Unified_Inventory is enabled? Major bug, IMO.

Noticed. Unified Inventory update fixes this.

Posted: **Wed Dec 28, 2016 03:56**

KCoombes wrote:
Fixerol wrote: -snip-

Some Minetest Game changes: -snip-

[*]Add sfinv to allow tabs to be added to the inventory / Nov 27, 2016 / Mod makers can add tabs to inventory for easier access.

Anyone else notice that sfinv is now the default inventory, even if Unified_Inventory is enabled? Major bug, IMO.

I noticed that too.

Posted: **Wed Dec 28, 2016 18:07**

KCoombes wrote:Anyone else notice that sfinv is now the default inventory, even if Unified_Inventory is enabled? Major bug, IMO.

Not a bug. Update your unified inventory version

Posted: **Wed Dec 28, 2016 18:49**

Wuzzy wrote:
has there been any changes to the time it takes wheat to grow I'm having problems growing it and I want to know if it's a me problem or feature of the new minetest

Yes, the farming plant growth mechanic has been completely reworked (see Minetest Game commit 70ef7864c1533cc50ef1da95985ff6b741778066).
According to the commit description, the growth should be now slightly shorter. A fully-grown wheat or cotton plant will now take 2-3 game days or ca. 1 h in real time, if I can believe the description. There's still an element of chance involved, so not all plants grow equally fast.
If your plants don't grow at all then you either found a very embarrassing bug in Minetest Game or you forget something. But the farming gameplay mechanic hasn't changed at all, only the code for growth; this is mostly only an internal change. See also: http://wiki.minetest.net/Wheat_(plant)

I planted the wheat over 2 minetest weeks ago and still no crop I have deleted the game first saving planet ghost in a separate file and am going to re-download minetest and see if it works and I can farm properly

Posted: **Wed Dec 28, 2016 20:03**

Chibi ghost. That is certainly too long.
You sure there is water nearby?

Posted: **Wed Dec 28, 2016 20:35**

yeah my usual pattern is
soil, soil, soil, water, soil, soil, soil, water, so I should have plenty of water

the only thing I could do is went I started I had another mod running agriculture but I turned it off
maybe I should reactivate it maybe that should help

Posted: **Wed Dec 28, 2016 21:16**

nope no it didn't

Posted: **Wed Dec 28, 2016 21:24**

Very good! Very fast version!

In Ubuntu 16.04 I tried sudo apt-get install minetest and install 0.4.13. How should I do?

Posted: **Wed Dec 28, 2016 21:33**

even if Unified_Inventory is enabled

You sure? I've used Unified_Inventory very recently very close to release and it was fine. Make sure to use latest version.

Posted: **Thu Dec 29, 2016 06:48**

Punk wrote:Very good! Very fast version!

In Ubuntu 16.04 I tried sudo apt-get install minetest and install 0.4.13. How should I do?

Make sure you add the ppa (sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/stable) and then run the command.

Posted: **Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:26**

GreenDimond wrote:
Punk wrote:Very good! Very fast version!

In Ubuntu 16.04 I tried sudo apt-get install minetest and install 0.4.13. How should I do?

Make sure you add the ppa (sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/stable) and then run the command.

I used $ sudo snap install minetest-luk3yx.
It's ok?

Thanks!

Posted: **Thu Dec 29, 2016 14:03**

Not sure who packages minetest for snappy (if anyone at all) - havent seen any mention before. So if it didnt work then probably no, not ok yet.

The supported ways to get the latest is to use the PPA or to compile it yourself

Posted: **Thu Dec 29, 2016 19:45**

Chibi ghost wrote:
Wuzzy wrote:
has there been any changes to the time it takes wheat to grow I'm having problems growing it and I want to know if it's a me problem or feature of the new minetest

Yes, the farming plant growth mechanic has been completely reworked (see Minetest Game commit 70ef7864c1533cc50ef1da95985ff6b741778066).
According to the commit description, the growth should be now slightly shorter. A fully-grown wheat or cotton plant will now take 2-3 game days or ca. 1 h in real time, if I can believe the description. There's still an element of chance involved, so not all plants grow equally fast.
If your plants don't grow at all then you either found a very embarrassing bug in Minetest Game or you forget something. But the farming gameplay mechanic hasn't changed at all, only the code for growth; this is mostly only an internal change. See also: http://wiki.minetest.net/Wheat_(plant)

I planted the wheat over 2 minetest weeks ago and still no crop I have deleted the game first saving planet ghost in a separate file and am going to re-download minetest and see if it works and I can farm properly

problem sort of solved I can't use my 14.14 game and move it to 14.15 this is irritating is there anyway of making minetest backwards compatible to maps created on previous versions of minetest or at least to the last update

Posted: **Sat Dec 31, 2016 09:18**

Chibi ghost wrote:problem sort of solved I can't use my 14.14 game and move it to 14.15 this is irritating is there anyway of making minetest backwards compatible to maps created on previous versions of minetest or at least to the last update

I wonder if it would be possible to create a king of lauchncher letting the player choosing the Minetest version he wants to play to keep compatibility when it is needed (yes like Minecraft). Sure it raises some other problem like for mod versions too.

Posted: **Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:58**

Very well done developers!
I hope to come back maintaining my little content soon, even if such a good work on default could make my subgame obsolete some day :D

Posted: **Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:41**

Chibi ghost wrote:problem sort of solved I can't use my 14.14 game and move it to 14.15 this is irritating is there anyway of making minetest backwards compatible to maps created on previous versions of minetest or at least to the last update

Minetest 0.4.* farming should be backwards compatible already...

Version number should not be relevant, the ABM for wheat growing hasn't really changed all that much far as I can see.... what did you do to "sort of solve" the issue....?

Alcyone wrote: wonder if it would be possible to create a king of lauchncher letting the player choosing the Minetest version he wants to play to keep compatibility when it is needed (yes like Minecraft). Sure it raises some other problem like for mod versions too.

On Linux, you can already choose your version of MT to be run -- by compiling it yourself. (On WIndows, just download the corresponding "portable" ZIP for each version). The instructions are fairly straightforward for compiling, you'll just need to git-clone a copy and git-branch to the state from around 15th of May 2016 to get 0.4.14. You can git-branch to stable-0.4 to get the latest of the series I think (currently 0.4.15)

If you want to create a way to automate all this, and slap a handy picker in front of it, that would be interesting too.

I wouldn't encourage/ask trying to make minetest installable in different versions on the same Linux via package management.

Posted: **Tue Jan 03, 2017 21:19**

I moved my world from 04.14 on which it was created to 04.15 then found out the wheat and cotton didn't grow
to fix the problem I moved the world back from 15 to 14 which I re-downloaded
and I run minetest from windows 10 and I am not that technical about program management

Posted: **Tue Jan 03, 2017 21:21**

Chibi ghost wrote:I moved my world from 04.14 on which it was created to 04.15 then found out the wheat and cotton didn't grow
to fix the problem I moved the world back from 15 to 14 which I re-downloaded
and I run minetest from windows 10 and I am not that technical about program management

Were the plants planted in 0.4.14 or 0.4.15? How long did you wait?

Posted: **Tue Jan 03, 2017 23:46**

Interesting, on Liberty Land there was something like that too. I don't know if he fixed it.

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