[macOS/OS X] Neoascetic's nightly builds and others

[Joby]

So how do I go about debugging it? As I said I'm new to MT and OSX development, any pointers are appreciated otherwise you will find me Googling like a crazy person....

[Morn76]

Finding out the bad commit by bisecting would be the next step I think. Of course if the last MT commit without trackpad problems is 0.4.9-something, there are quite a few versions to test.

If you apply these old patches from mtmake-osx to MT 0.4.9 (or other MT versions from before June 29, 2014), you should be able to build and test them.

[MinerDad]

I have a MacBook Air so it isn't just MBPs

[MinerDad]

I think I found the problematic commit: 1c21e391edeb7739935ca78250f066a60c369fc7 (https://github.com/minetest/minetest/co ... a60c369fc7). If I modify the make_mac.sh script to checkout that commit instead of master and modify src/irrlichttypes.h with the u64 patch (just move the #include <stdint.h> before the #include <irrTypes.h>), the weird trackpad issue shows up. If I grab the previous commit, 92981b2fee19fd04e2a49533ffa1f778bff6ca72, and do the same changes as above, I don't see the trackpad problem.

Joby, can you see if this commit also causes the problem for you?

[neoascetic]

Recently I've made some fixes in minetest's package building system:
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1975

So now, "make package" simply works: as a result, you'll get ".dmg" file with minetest app bundle within. This let me create Homebrew formula (https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-ga ... inetest.rb), so if you use Homebrew, installing minetest (event the latest one) should be as simple as typing "brew install homebrew/games/minetest".

But let's return to ".dmg" file. There still exist an issue. Currently, minetest links with all dependencies dynamically, so you need to have them all installed on target system. Morn76's project fixes this by running "dylibbundler" to fix libraries paths. I think it would be nice to have minetest doing same staff out-of-box without need in external project. I. e. we still need to fix packaging for OSX with cmake's "fixup_bundle" or something similar.

@Morn76, what are your think on this? Would you like to make attempt to fix the issue?

[Morn76]

I think it would be nice to have minetest doing same staff out-of-box without need in external project. I. e. we still need to fix packaging for OSX with cmake's "fixup_bundle" or something similar.

@Morn76, what are your think on this? Would you like to make attempt to fix the issue?

I'm using a shell script because I could not figure out how to include all libs via cmake's packaging system, so I think you will have to fix this yourself. Personally I'm fine with my shell script, but Homebrew is a great option too of course.

Maybe we can have daily Travis builds for OS X then and get fewer nasty surprises like the u64 problem.

I think I found the problematic commit: 1c21e391edeb7739935ca78250f066a60c369fc7 (https://github.com/minetest/minetest/co ... a60c369fc7). If I modify the make_mac.sh script to checkout that commit instead of master and modify src/irrlichttypes.h with the u64 patch (just move the #include <stdint.h> before the #include <irrTypes.h>), the weird trackpad issue shows up. If I grab the previous commit, 92981b2fee19fd04e2a49533ffa1f778bff6ca72, and do the same changes as above, I don't see the trackpad problem.

Looks pretty innocent, as it only seems to affect FPS limiting and double tap jumping. I think my frame rates are too low to require limiting (30–40 fps), so maybe that's why I don't see any problems on my MB but users with recent, more powerful machines do.

[Joby]

so if you use Homebrew, installing minetest (event the latest one) should be as simple as typing "brew install homebrew/games/minetest".

I tried this and it worked perfectly first time :) great work.

Whats even better is that its fixed my trackpad problem!! This is the first 0.4.10 build that I've been able to use with no trackpad issue. Would be interested to know if it fixes it for MinerDad too

Though I'd still like to know what the cause was...

[neoascetic]

Maybe we can have daily Travis builds for OS X then and get fewer nasty surprises like the u64 problem.

Currently travis does not support multi-os feature for builds, so I've made a simple alternative here: https://github.com/neoascetic/minetest/tree/travis-osx. Master branch is synchronized with that branch every 5 minutes (at this moment). If you are interested in failure notifications, feel free to send me your email, I'll add it to travis setup.

[Morn76]

Maybe we can have daily Travis builds for OS X then and get fewer nasty surprises like the u64 problem.

Currently travis does not support multi-os feature for builds, so I've made a simple alternative here: https://github.com/neoascetic/minetest/tree/travis-osx. Master branch is synchronized with that branch every 5 minutes (at this moment). If you are interested in failure notifications, feel free to send me your email, I'll add it to travis setup.

Excellent! How does this work exactly, e.g. is there a way to download these builds somewhere? If so I'd like to link to them from the first post in this thread.

If these builds had all optional features in terms of included subgames, Redis, FreeType, etc. of my builds and would be uploaded as nightlies somewhere, that would be a great alternative, especially if they also solve the mysterious trackpad issue that has been reported.

[MinerDad]

Building with "make package" and running that build doesn't fix the trackpad issue for me.

I split the problematic commit into several parts: double tap, show_debug, and limitfps. The double tap change did not cause any problem but the show_debug and the limitfps changes did. My frame rates are always around 60fps so I would be affected by the limitfps. I don't know why the show_debug line is causing a problem.

[neoascetic]

Excellent! How does this work exactly, e.g. is there a way to download these builds somewhere? If so I'd like to link to them from the first post in this thread.

Currently these builds only for testing purposes, just to be sure that everything compiles well. The issue with dynamic linking is still need to be fixed, thus no, there is no way to download those builds.
Issue with trackpad was fixed probably because version from tag 0.4.10 was installed instead of latest master.

[Morn76]

Building with "make package" and running that build doesn't fix the trackpad issue for me.

I split the problematic commit into several parts: double tap, show_debug, and limitfps. The double tap change did not cause any problem but the show_debug and the limitfps changes did. My frame rates are always around 60fps so I would be affected by the limitfps. I don't know why the show_debug line is causing a problem.

Well, as the recent u64 issue showed, a Minetest commit can look perfectly harmless yet still trigger an obscure bug e.g. in an Irrlicht header file that causes problems.

What happens to your trackpad if you comment out the calls to limitFps()?

Currently these builds only for testing purposes, just to be sure that everything compiles well. The issue with dynamic linking is still need to be fixed, thus no, there is no way to download those builds.

Aww. I hope we can get nightlies too like FlightGear at some point. But of course checking everything compiles is useful in itself.

Issue with trackpad was fixed probably because version from tag 0.4.10 was installed instead of latest master.

Yes, that might be it. I'm not sure if Joby installed HEAD or stable.

P.S. Aha, if I run the Minimal Development Test game, I can hit 60 fps on Linux and Mac: no problems on Linux; stuck trackpad on the Mac.

[Morn76]

New build: 20141224.3f83ca2 (0.4.11) with a patch for the trackpad bug. It's not a 100% perfect solution but it has to suffice for now. :-)

The mtmake-osx repo has also been updated.

Merry Christmas, everyone!

[Joby]

Yes, that might be it. I'm not sure if Joby installed HEAD or stable.

I used head, and the previous build Morn76 had uploaded, those both gave problems, whatever brew install gave me is the 0.4.10 that works perfectly, I guess that was stable.

I just tried the 0.4.11 build linked above and its a lot better trackpad wise but not perfectly smooth. Its totally playable now, but does stutter a little bit, where as the 0.4.9 build was smooth.

Thanks guys, and merry Christmas!!

[Morn76]

I just tried the 0.4.11 build linked above and its a lot better trackpad wise but not perfectly smooth. Its totally playable now, but does stutter a little bit, where as the 0.4.9 build was smooth.

Yes, this bug needs more investigation later on and a better fix/pull request. Which 0.4.9 build (downloaded from where; stable or git version) did you use by the way?

[Joby]

Yes, this bug needs more investigation later on and a better fix/pull request. Which 0.4.9 build (downloaded from where; stable or git version) did you use by the way?

Can't remember where I clicked the link but the file name is minetest-osx-bin-20140903.8948907-yosemite-v3.zip

[Morn76]

Yes, this bug needs more investigation later on and a better fix/pull request. Which 0.4.9 build (downloaded from where; stable or git version) did you use by the way?

Can't remember where I clicked the link but the file name is minetest-osx-bin-20140903.8948907-yosemite-v3.zip

OK, so this is a September 0.4.10-dev build then, not 0.4.9.

[Joby]

oh sorry I could have sworn that 0.4.9 had shown in the top left, or is that how dev builds work, previous stable + commits

[Morn76]

0.4.10 was released in July, so it should say 0.4.10-X-Y, where X is the number of commits since the commit tagged as 0.4.10 and Y is the truncated git commit hash.

[Joby]

Sorry I could have swan it said 0.4.9 I just checked, its 0.4.10-74-g8948907 maybe I was getting mixed up with the server version that was running at the time.

[Morn76]

I've updated the 0.4.11 zip file at GitHub. Based on the same commit as before, but now it actually says 0.4.11 on screen.

The 0.4.11 commit wasn't tagged as such in the main MT repo for some ime because apparently creating the Windows release builds took longer than expected.

[Morn76]

New build: 20150114.57f2fa5

Stil no real solution for the trackpad stickiness issue at 60 fps though. :-(

[Morn76]

New build: 20150125.47aca6f

[Morn76]

New build: 20150208.15c0376

[Morn76]

New build:

stable release 0.4.12 (7993a40)

[Minetestforfun]

Hi,

Thank you for your work ! :)

But please, can't you maintain a build with mavericks version ? (i can't update my macbook because if i do that, i loose many things, like refind, because it's not compatible with yosemite...)

(So, for the moment i still have your latest Mavericks build, but it's not a updated version...)

[neoascetic]

Hi,

Thank you for your work ! :)

But please, can't you maintain a build with mavericks version ? (i can't update my macbook because if i do that, i loose many things, like refind, because it's not compatible with yosemite...)

(So, for the moment i still have your latest Mavericks build, but it's not a updated version...)

You may use homebrew to get the latest version of minetest: `brew install homebrew/games/minetest --HEAD`.

[Minetestforfun]

I actually used macports repository, but in macports they haven't minetest app...
For Homebrew, that's a great news, i will install homebrew and test the build from it, thank you :)

EDIT : it works great with homebrew, thank you very much !

[Morn76]

I've made the Homebrew command orange in the first post; hopefully that makes it more conspicuous.

Whatever happened to the blink and marquee tags, hallmarks of 1990s web design excellence? Now that I finally need them, they've disappeared… :-)

@neoascetic: Could you look into the trackpad stickiness issue? Load the development test and perhaps set fps_max really low and watch the sluggishness when looking around.

[SideburnEtic]

What needs to be done so this compiles on an Intel 64-bit architecture?