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[Question] Why Minetest is so laggy in windows?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 18:14
by MineYoshi
I don't know why the new MT Version (0.4.13.) is so laggy, don't haves more than 15 or 20 fps , i don't know how to make it faster, do you have any tricks or advices i can do?
I am bored and tired of only can use the 0.4.12 version what i can do?

If you need the requeriments:

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Chipset GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a
Dedicated Memory 250.0 MB
Total Memory 889.6 MB
Pixel Shader Version 3.0
Vertex Shader Version 3.0
Hardware T & L Yes
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Device ID 03D6
Plug and Play ID VEN_10DE&DEV_03D6&SUBSYS_03D61849&REV_A2
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Memory 2.0 GB
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Re: [Question] Why Minetest is so laggy in windows?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 18:17
by Kevin Tee
What is your mt config?

Re: [Question] Why Minetest is so laggy in windows?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 19:03
by rubenwardy
By lag do you mean low fps?

The development version has multiple performance improvements, you can pick up a version from the builds section of the forum

Re: [Question] Why Minetest is so laggy in windows?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 19:51
by MineYoshi
I tried all but everyone have low fps!
;-;

Re: [Question] Why Minetest is so laggy in windows?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 21:35
by TenPlus1
Have you tried switching Shaders OFF and setting Debug Log to none ?

Re: [Question] Why Minetest is so laggy in windows?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 09:14
by addi
Try switching to Direct3d (DirectX 9). This helped much on my PC. Sadly sfan5's builds does not support it, so you have to use Krock's or my Installer build.
But Krock does not provide native x64 builds so I would recommend you to try my installer.
If you don't want a indev build, you can use Dark's stable build. This had the best performance on my PC.

Re: [Question] Why Minetest is so laggy in windows?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 01:06
by MineYoshi
I tried all the recommended version and it's the same there are low fps!
I tried your version addi

i download the installer and doesn't work , only says that needs admin privileges i say yes, and keep there, don't do nothing don't appear anything!

Re: [Question] Why Minetest is so laggy in windows?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 07:38
by addi
Thanks for testing and thanks for your feedback.

I need additional informations first.
Please open Explorer and navigate to your downloads folder (where you downloaded the MinetestSetup.exe)
Press and hold down [SHIFT] while right clicking an empty space in the folder.
Click now "Open command prompt here" (or similar) type "minetestsetup /log=log.txt" [ENTER]
Image
Then it should generate a log.txt file in the downloads folder. Please sent me the contents.
If there is no log file after confirming the UAC with yes, Setup may be blocked by an anti virus or it does not have administrative rights.

Re: [Question] Why Minetest is so laggy in windows?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 22:54
by MineYoshi
You are right addis, the antivirus blocked the file,

anyways there is a trouble:

Runtime Error (at 29:206):

Error Interno: ExtractTemporaryFile: The file "" was not found.


I tried downloading the installer again, and the same error!

Re: [Question] Why Minetest is so laggy in windows?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 15:41
by Sick-D!!
I don't use Windows anymore, because of Problems like that.
Do you have the same Problems with other Games/Programs?

Are your drivers Up-to-date?
Is your "Microsoft-thing" up-to-date?

What about a dualboot with Linux? Or a Linux in Virtualbox? (just asking xD)

Re: [Question] Why Minetest is so laggy in windows?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 20:09
by MineYoshi
In really i know that about M$ Windows, so i have Slacko puppy linux64 in dualboot, i only say that because some friends that only keep in windows, because they don't want his computer get an error!

But anyways, i have a trouble in the resolution in slacko, so i use Windows instead sometimes...

Re: [Question] Why Minetest is so laggy in windows?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 21:22
by AiTechEye
Memory 2.0 GB

that could be the problem, because minetest is using much memory, and its a common problem in windows, when playing games.

minetest normaly takes about 900mb ram, and your system maybe 1000mb.

you can see more if you press: ctrl+shift+esc

try to add this to the conf file
(it will clear unused stuff when it's not used for x seconds [i had same probelm the first times i played the game])

server_unload_unused_data_timeout = 1500
client_unload_unused_data_timeout = 600

Re: [Question] Why Minetest is so laggy in windows?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 21:36
by MineYoshi
It don't works ;_;

Re: [Question] Why Minetest is so laggy in windows?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 21:47
by AiTechEye
try to use ctrl+shift+esc and you will see whats is going on your computer.

if it is using much cache you need to use the "disc cleanup" it wil just remove unused / tempoary files, and clear the old backups... (the backups in windows 7 or older is huge)

Re: [Question] Why Minetest is so laggy in windows?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 23:00
by MineYoshi
Only 254 Mb of Ram....


The processor my computer is old!

(More or less 6 years...)

Re: [Question] Why Minetest is so laggy in windows?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 20:26
by AiTechEye
that says all, but you can still add this to the conf file (better then nothing)
it will clear unused data every minute

server_unload_unused_data_timeout = 60
client_unload_unused_data_timeout = 60

Re: [Question] Why Minetest is so laggy in windows?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 21:07
by MineYoshi
I used that don't works ;_;

Re: [Question] Why Minetest is so laggy in windows?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 13:31
by snowflake
if your laggy in game , disable full range veiw , u got lot of application in your computer , u may need to unistall some ...

Re: [Question] Why Minetest is so laggy in windows?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 20:30
by MineYoshi
....


i don't have view full range, i limited with minetest.conf the view to 15 nodes, still laggy, not so many processes, still laggy!

Simple i fuck this shit i will wait for 0.4.14

the 0.4.13 is very laggy!

Re: [Question] Why Minetest is so laggy in windows?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 08:13
by snowflake
Did u try uninstalling some of your application??

or try installing some more video drives in windows

Re: [Question] Why Minetest is so laggy in windows?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 09:01
by Krock
Here some additions from my side:

Reducing RAM usage
1) Use a low-resolution texture pack: lower = better
2) Disable mods with background music and heavy mesh files, it's all loaded to RAM
3) Disable "Mesh cache" (default setting)

Increasing FPS
1*) Use a recent in-dev build from the "Builds" forum. The VBO commit gives a FPS boost
2) Check for a newer video card driver, make sure it's actually the correct one
3) Add an exception in your antivirus for minetest.exe
4) Check all rendering backends (setting "Video driver") and see what's the fastest one
5) Disable (3D) clouds
6) Disable "Smooth lighting"
7) Disable "Freetype fonts"
8) Disable your computer

Re: [Question] Why Minetest is so laggy in windows?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 18:30
by MineYoshi
Krock wrote:Here some additions from my side:

Reducing RAM usage
1) Use a low-resolution texture pack: lower = better
2) Disable mods with background music and heavy mesh files, it's all loaded to RAM
3) Disable "Mesh cache" (default setting)

Increasing FPS
1) Check for a newer video card driver, make sure it's actually the correct one
2) Add an exception in your antivirus for minetest.exe
3) Check all rendering backends (setting "Video driver") and see what's the fastest one
4) Disable (3D) clouds
5) Disable "Smooth lighting"
6) Disable "Freetype fonts"
7) Disable your computer


ok tried the thing of the resolution, my minetest is very vanilla!
i don't have mods and i disable "Mesh Cache"

I don't found any new video card driver!

I added the exception in antivirus!
i did the steps to 4 to 6

i only need to "disable my computer"
and check rendering backends (i tried mostly but maybe a find a good one!)