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Add default grass to jungles

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 17:32
by amadin
Now jungles don't have grass (only rarity junglegrass) and this look bad. I propose add default grass to jungles. It will add the effect of living in the jungle. Example below.

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Also lacks vines or lianas on map generation. Jungles now looks like dead.

Re: Add default grass to jungles

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 07:25
by paramat
Lianas are at the 4 corners of each trunk, you can see them in cross-section on the log top.
We could have more junglegrass. In reality a jungle floor isn't particularly dense, not much light.
This request will probably go nowhere unless you add an issue at Github.

Re: Add default grass to jungles

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 09:27
by amadin
I can't see lianas on jungle trees. I mean vines (on trunk) and lianas (from leaves) similar this screenshot.

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Re: Add default grass to jungles

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 06:47
by paramat
See this post https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/880#issue-137081123 and the comments linked in it, that explains everything.

Re: Add default grass to jungles

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:48
by amadin
Oh, I undestand, but impossible climb up the trunk now. Why not add lianas as separate node? Then will possible to climb up the trunk by a liana (on screenshot is separate node of liana).

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Re: Add default grass to jungles

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 09:26
by paramat
I did consider making the sides of the jungletree climbable airlike nodes, like in my watershed lua mapgen, but that has problems. Adding separate liana nodes is a possibiity but this would further increase the render load of rainforest. The current jungletree texture would be split into the lianas and the dark bark.

Re: Add default grass to jungles

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 13:23
by amadin
Well then, I think it is necessary to add at least bushes (at least rarely) or many grass in jungles. I hope this is not noticeably increase the render load of jungles.

Re: Add default grass to jungles

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 13:55
by paramat
I'm working on biomes so will try making junglegrass more dense.
The clearing in your screenshot is rare, rainforest is very dense with trees.

Re: Add default grass to jungles

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 15:49
by toby109tt
paramat wrote:I'm working on biomes so will try making junglegrass more dense.
The clearing in your screenshot is rare, rainforest is very dense with trees.


I Would also like the vines to be a separated node from the trunk (a new vine node)

Re: Add default grass to jungles

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 23:39
by BlueTangs Rock
I would like to see co-coa beans and vines growing on the sides of some of the trees,and large fern like plants in different parts of a jungle biome all in Default. :)