Player model enhancement. [knees & elbows]

[Inocudom]

The mesh is almost done, except the head and face which are a little buggy.

Rarkenin made the player model in the image above, but he is not active in this community anymore. In addition to the eyes, mouth, and second layer of Melkor's model, I believe that a good thing to do with the enhanced player model is to give it the proportions of Rarkenin's model in the image above. That way, it will look more unique and more human.

[cypher-neo]

Just for fun, I have added bending knees and elbows to the default character model.

I couldn't get this work on my server.

Seriously though! Apply this idea to mobs and make mob models more 3D with moving parts. I hate it when something sneaks up on me because it was facing laterally to me (and thus an invisible line). Mobs need to be 3D, just like characters.

[stu]

I couldn't get this work on my server.

Seriously though! Apply this idea to mobs and make mob models more 3D with moving parts. I hate it when something sneaks up on me because it was facing laterally to me (and thus an invisible line). Mobs need to be 3D, just like characters.

What version of minetest are you using? You will need at leat a version wih 3d player model support, 0.4.3+ irrc.

[kaeza]

Just for fun, I have added bending knees and elbows to the default character model.

I couldn't get this work on my server.

Seriously though! Apply this idea to mobs and make mob models more 3D with moving parts. I hate it when something sneaks up on me because it was facing laterally to me (and thus an invisible line). Mobs need to be 3D, just like characters.

Mobs have nothing to do with this project (better player models). If you have any complaints about the mob models:
1) update your game
2) update your mods
3a) if it still persists, post in the relevant mod topic
3b) make the models yourself

[12Me21]

Ok, I discovered that modifying the default mods on my server has no effect, even deleting them does nothing. Is there any way to get this to work as a mod, not a replacement for the default?

[stu]

There is a mod somewhere, look for player_models, that model is included.

If you still see the old model after replacing it then it has either been misplaced or overridden by a mod.

This is not a mod btw, more a feature suggestion. There are still some issues regarding the 'joint' texturing w/o breaking compatibility with mc skins.

[Inocudom]

The mesh is almost done, except the head and face which are a little buggy.

Rarkenin made the player model in the image above, but he is not active in this community anymore. In addition to the eyes, mouth, and second layer of Melkor's model, I believe that a good thing to do with the enhanced player model is to give it the proportions of Rarkenin's model in the image above. That way, it will look more unique and more human.

Have you considered body proportions like the ones in the image above?

[cypher-neo]

Mobs have nothing to do with this project (better player models). If you have any complaints about the mob models:
1) update your game
2) update your mods
3a) if it still persists, post in the relevant mod topic
3b) make the models yourself

1) Already using 0.4.6
2) Only mob mods I'm using is PilzAdam's Simple Mobs and Zmobs.
3) I'll do it...
4) because I have no idea how to begin doing this.

[Jordach]

What's saddening is that I don't have a copy of the original .blend.

EDIT: VanessaE had a copy: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/stu-model.zip

EDIT2: Nope.avi, thats the old player model.

EDIT3: Vanessa just found the correct model. WOO!

[stu]

I did make a slight change to the dig animation after that version.

I think this is the last one I uploaded: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vs5jxvqgot3giq5/flex_model.zip

Sorry, I didn't realize the .blend file was missing from the archive

Edit: Updated link in top post.

[VanessaE]

What's the change that you made, in particular?

[stu]

It is only very slight, the arm bends and straightens the same way it does in the walk/dig animation. It's barely noticeable in game.

[sdzen]

http://www.mediafire.com/?3cum16d295jofbj for those of you who don't like the 50%

[hampa16]

where's the "common" folder?

[VanessaE]

Common doesn't exist anymore - it's been combined with "build" and "survival" and merged back into minetest_game.

[Inocudom]

I have an idea. I think it would be nice if the whole body had a layer similar to the hat layer for beards and clothing.

Hm, yeah, and easy to do in blender. But it then breaks compatibility with out MC skins.

Although, it as stu has said: multiple material lists would help, as clothes could be a second layer, waiting to be used and assigned by the engine.

Minecraft skins could use the system that is in place now as far as clothing goes and new skins could use an above layer for clothing (and old skins could be made to use the above layer as well.)

The quote above is from the Sam II topic in the General Discussion section. Is the idea above possible to achieve without breaking compatibility with Minecraft skins?

[stu]

Hm, yeah, and easy to do in blender. But it then breaks compatibility with out MC skins.

Although, it as stu has said: multiple material lists would help, as clothes could be a second layer, waiting to be used and assigned by the engine.

Minecraft skins could use the system that is in place now as far as clothing goes and new skins could use an above layer for clothing (and old skins could be made to use the above layer as well.)

The quote above is from the Sam II topic in the General Discussion section. Is the idea above possible to achieve without breaking compatibility with Minecraft skins?

Not without multiple texture/material update support, see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/767

This model has now been updated. I have fixed the 'joint' texturing issues that affected some character skins. Download link in first post.

[Inocudom]

Minecraft skins could use the system that is in place now as far as clothing goes and new skins could use an above layer for clothing (and old skins could be made to use the above layer as well.)

The quote above is from the Sam II topic in the General Discussion section. Is the idea above possible to achieve without breaking compatibility with Minecraft skins?

Not without multiple texture/material update support, see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/767

This model has now been updated. I have fixed the 'joint' texturing issues that affected some character skins. Download link in first post.

I wish you the best of luck with that pull request. I really do mean that.

[stu]

Now includes a replacement model for my wield3d mod.

[Inocudom]

Now includes a replacement model for my wield3d mod.

The wield3d mod, I feel, should be added to the base game as well.

[TenPlus1]

A good idea but would affect gameplay and framerates... Stick to a simple avatar for now with a view to future optimizations...

[stu]

A good idea but would affect gameplay and framerates... Stick to a simple avatar for now with a view to future optimizations...

Admittedly the 150Kb excess bloat of the model may add a millisecond or so to your server connection time. As for framerate, these models are so low poly the difference would not even effect the framerate on a 386.

[davidthecreator]

it would be nice if it supported your 3d armors mod...

[Kpenguin]

Very nice model stu! It really improves the looks of the player. Would be nice if we could make it so the head swiveled on the body.

[stu]

Very nice model stu! It really improves the looks of the player. Would be nice if we could make it so the head swiveled on the body.

Thank you, however this post is rather old, I dunno if I even still have the original .blend for this. Maybe I can dig it out and convert it to .b3d though I'm not sure about swivelling heads or armor support, I'm not even sure the former is possible yet without ugly, lag inducing hacks.

[BobbyBonsaimind]

@stu I have a copy (with changes to the animations and cleaned of duplicate vertexes) in my player-model mod.

And there is Rius mod which has such functionality, the head moving I mean.

[wilkgr76]

Very nice model stu! It really improves the looks of the player. Would be nice if we could make it so the head swiveled on the body.

Thank you, however this post is rather old, I dunno if I even still have the original .blend for this. Maybe I can dig it out and convert it to .b3d though I'm not sure about swivelling heads or armor support, I'm not even sure the former is possible yet without ugly, lag inducing hacks.

The swivelling head has been made before in a "hacky" way. IIRC, it was called the "playeranim" mod. But this goes up and down only, but it's still a start.

[Don]

Very nice model stu! It really improves the looks of the player. Would be nice if we could make it so the head swiveled on the body.

Thank you, however this post is rather old, I dunno if I even still have the original .blend for this. Maybe I can dig it out and convert it to .b3d though I'm not sure about swivelling heads or armor support, I'm not even sure the former is possible yet without ugly, lag inducing hacks.

The swivelling head has been made before in a "hacky" way. IIRC, it was called the "playeranim" mod. But this goes up and down only, but it's still a start.

sofar has made it go side to side now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blrurijucN4

[stu]

I have made some minor improvements to the original model and a new b3d version is now available here: minetest-models

There are a few more to be added, soon (TM)

[wilkgr76]

I have made some minor improvements to the original model and a new b3d version is now available here: minetest-models

There are a few more to be added, soon (TM)

Awesome!