[WIP] Goblins [mobs_goblins]

[FreeLikeGNU]

Duane, those are some wicked traps!

[everamzah]

I'm adding it right to the mobs mod directory. Works pretty good with zombies, I don't know. Thanks for them!! Hope you add the super wicked traps.

[duane]

Check here for molten gold for the gold trap and lightning effects for the copper trap. And I think I've finally got the little beggars to tunnel properly.

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[FreeLikeGNU]

Added duane's traps (with some further modifications ;-) to standalone and redo goblins. Tinkering with traps may be painful.

Edit: i really should learn git better, merging in parts of duane's fork rather than copy-paste :p

[everamzah]

Molten gold liquid? Yay, can't wait to try. \o/

[duane]

i really should learn git better, merging in parts of duane's fork rather than copy-paste :p

That's my fault. I just meant to throw some extra code into that fork for you to look at, but I ended up including all my own personal tweaks. I wouldn't even attempt to merge it with anything as it is.

On a brighter note, I went in this morning and corrected a LOT of logic errors in the tunneling code, and (thanks to tenplus1) I got it working with stock mobs redo. The do_custom function is amazingly versatile if you know how to use it. You should be able to just paste it in for any "dungeon-building" creature.

I've intentionally stuck with letting the creatures make only one change per "walk", which required altering the search/replace that tenplus1 put in to not use a replace chance. It's unnecessary when the mobs can only do one thing at a time, and they were occasionally changing whole swaths of nodes instantly as it was.

They're making a barge-load of tunnels, rooms, and such now -- probably more than some would prefer, but I like it.

Let me say again, that this mod is excellent, bordering on genius. Letting mobs make significant alterations to the environment is a quantum leap over what I've seen in the game so far.

[duane]

Molten gold liquid? Yay, can't wait to try. \o/

Don't get too excited. You can't make a gold generator. : )

We do need to decide what happens when you quench a molten gold flowing block. I'm not for making it gold ore.

[duane]

I think that as a WIP mod that's fine, but maybe the goblins should be less common and a bit more concentrated in particular areas. So that it's more of a discovery to manage to find a den of goblins. You still could get some solitary goblin explorer that starts messing up your cave, but it shouldn't be as frequent as in the WIP version of the mod.

I'm starting to think that we ought to slightly reduce the spawn rates for most of the goblins except the cobbler (and maybe the digger) on stone/ores, and include mossycobble in their spawn nodes. That would tend to keep them together, and more importantly they wouldn't starve themselves out by replacing the ores they spawned on. I hate to see abandoned lairs.

Edit: Yep, I did that and it works a lot better. The lairs aren't quite as empty.

[FreeLikeGNU]

Duane, I merged your pull request for standalone, though something in me thinks this digging code is more for the likes of dwarves than goblins...

[duane]

Duane, I merged your pull request for standalone, though something in me thinks this digging code is more for the likes of dwarves than goblins...

Do I hear another mod announcement?

You could always make it optional (or throw it out). The random node replacement was annoying to me, and I really wanted to see them dig into other caves. They hit a lava cave the other day, and I was amazed at how long the little devils can survive in molten rock.

[FreeLikeGNU]

I've adjusted digging to occur more often and removed digging from goblins other than digger. Also reduced debug messages to just nodes being replaced.

[Don]

I just downloaded the latest from git. Love how they are acting now. Awesome work!

[everamzah]

Do you have plans to drop the goblins mod that depends on Mobs Redo?

[FreeLikeGNU]

Do you have plans to drop the goblins mod that depends on Mobs Redo?

I would like for it to be easy to use goblins standalone or with redo, so I don't plan to drop support for redo, though it may take a little while to get them synced.

[moshiro fumamoto]

wont work. some help. am new at this

[duane]

wont work. some help. am new at this

What isn't working? I haven't seen any problems so far.

[moshiro fumamoto]

wont work. some help. am new at this

What isn't working? I haven't seen any problems so far.

don't know. maybe is the mod folder name.

[duane]

don't know. maybe is the mod folder name.

Did you see a message about the problem? The folder has to be named "mobs_goblins". If you can run the game from a terminal window, you might see more messages.

[moshiro fumamoto]

don't know. maybe is the mod folder name.

Did you see a message about the problem? The folder has to be named "mobs_goblins". If you can run the game from a terminal window, you might see more messages.

nothing. still run error

[moshiro fumamoto]

don't know. maybe is the mod folder name.

Did you see a message about the problem? The folder has to be named "mobs_goblins". If you can run the game from a terminal window, you might see more messages.

nothing. still run error

ERROR: mod error: failed load and run
/usr/share/games/minetest/mods/mobs_goblins/init.lua

[oleastre]

If it's installed in /usr, I suppose, you did it as root.
And if you try to run it as a user, can you verify you have enough permissions to access the mod files ? (Read for files and read + execute for directories)

[KCoombes]

Just a note, your goblins can violate areas as defined by Advanced Area Protection mod (viewtopic.php?f=11&t=7239&hilit=areas%5C) - do you have any solutions to keep your goblins out of basements?

EDIT: Nvm, I changed their spawn to -100 and it works, as they tend to dig/build down not up :P

[Neuromancer]

I love that the goblins actually have a purpose, and that they don't all mindlessly attack you. It makes them almost seem intelligent. Wish more mobs were like this. This works really well with the abandoned mines mod.
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[Neuromancer]

I added this mod to the Eden2 subgame which also contains the villages modpack, and I started wondering what all those goblins were doing underground. Why were they mining so relentlessly? Then I realized it would be really cool if every 7th night, there should be a blood moon where dozens of goblins emerge from recently opened holes in the surface and start shooting exploding arrows and use catapults with rocks that basically wreak havok on the village, destroying any buildings that the players are hiding in.

[duane]

I added this mod to the Eden2 subgame which also contains the villages modpack, and I started wondering what all those goblins were doing underground. Why were they mining so relentlessly? Then I realized it would be really cool if every 7th night, there should be a blood moon where dozens of goblins emerge from recently opened holes in the surface and start shooting exploding arrows and use catapults with rocks that basically wreak havok on the village, destroying any buildings that the players are hiding in.

I'm a traditionalist. I'd rather have them ride out on wolves and set everything on fire.

[Neuromancer]

I'm a traditionalist. I'd rather have them ride out on wolves and set everything on fire.

I liked the idea of flaming arrows also, but if you are going to add fire, it should be configurable to turn it off, because depending on your situation (lots of flammable plants and trees) this can cause raging fires in the world that never stop burning. It would be cool except then everything starts lagging and the noise gets obnoxious. So there should be a way to still have goblin raids without ruining your world if you don't want to.

[Neuromancer]

Speaking of fire, I've been finding when I've been going underground into caves/dungeons that have been populated by goblins, I've been sponaneously starting on fire or being electrocuted and losing hitpoints. Don't get me wrong, I think this is an awesome addition to the game as I love traps, but am wondering if it is part of this mod, or if it is part of some other mod.

[Nathan.S]

The explosions are from the Goblins, they make traps that look just like the cobble with coal and moss. I was surprised when I first discovered them, but looking through the code it is indeed from the Goblins.

[duane]

The explosions are from the Goblins, they make traps that look just like the cobble with coal and moss. I was surprised when I first discovered them, but looking through the code it is indeed from the Goblins.

My favorite is the TNT trap.

[ufa]

How do I disable this mod? I have already out load_mod in false on world.mt but it did not work. Also, if I delete the folder, I get lots of errors